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Crash of Algerian Air Force plane kills 103

Old 11th Feb 2014, 12:14
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Plane crash Algeria

Reportedly military transport plane.

BBC News - Algeria plane crash 'kills 103'
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 12:16
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Crash of Algerian Air Force plane kills 103

A plane operated by the Algerian Air Force crashed in East Algeria with 103 people on board. It was on its way to Mali.
No more details known at the moment.
Type of aircraft likely a IL76 or C130
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 12:27
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According to Algerian TVs, the flight was operating on domestic network, final destination was Constantine, DABC. Passengers were military staff and their families.
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Just spotted this on AV8; Algerian Air Force transport crash kills 103 - AV8|News

Seems they maybe also operate A340's
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 12:36
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The ( unique ) A340 they operate , is the Algerian Air Force one.
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 12:49
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Sky News reporting C-130, FWIW:

Algeria Plane Crash: More Than 100 People Killed
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 16:00
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Military and families. Sad. Lots of folks on a C-130. I bet not everyone had seats.
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 16:01
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Aircraft involved is 7T-WHM.

Soldiers and families.
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 16:44
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There are reports emerging from Algeria of a sole survivor.

Not confirmed yet, news reports coming out have been sketchy at best all afternoon.
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 17:11
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A strange coincidence from a previous crash there.

An Air Algerie Boeing 737 crashed on take-off from Tamanrasset in 2003, killing all but one of the 103 people on board.
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 18:37
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there is some footage of the aircraft

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JACDEC - Algerian AF C-130 crash
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 20:26
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Lots of folks on a C-130. I bet not everyone had seats.
Not necessarily. IIRC the RAF K model had capacity for 92 troops. Add in 5 seats on the flight deck, plus straps on the lower bunk for 3, plus the loadmaster/jumpmaster seating. 103 is pretty full, but there should be seats for all.
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C-130H

C-130H has 92 troops seats (plus crew)
C-130H-30 the one that crashes has 128 seats
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 21:14
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MSA looks to be 7800'.
High ground looks to be about 5000'

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Old 11th Feb 2014, 21:25
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Having just watched a Canal Algerie news report it seems to be confirmed that there were 103 on board with 1 survivor. All on board were soldiers with their families, so many children involved. Apparently bad weather was to blame with snow reported in the Constantine region.
The most recent incident involving the Algerian military before this was a mid-air collision between two fighters during a military exercise.
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 21:56
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"The Defense Ministry, meanwhile, blamed the weather. "

Isn't it a bit soon to be saying this? I thought I would log on here to find the truth.
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 21:58
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Apparently 78 onboard 1 sole survivor.
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I would say it's more of an assumption than anything, probably the most likely cause at this stage.
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The numbers are varying. Having conducted a quick check it would seem that foreign news outlets are reporting 77 dead and 1 survivor. But for some reason Algerian TV and Radio are reporting 102 dead with 1 survivor. Lemonde originally said 102 but have now edited and put in 77.
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 22:15
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Stupid contributors.

Bad weather my foot....you simply fly above MSA, using the correct pressure setting, and making appropriate corrections for temp and pressure. That's it. The Herc was not on approach to Constantine, and should not have been flying visually in any event. Constantine has perfectly adequate STARs and procedural approaches to ILS/VOR aids. Any professional pilot can determine this.

Why do so many half-wits here pick up on the idiocy of the media and then ask stupid questions? Do they have no self-respect? Or can they not be bothered to research the basics?

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