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Old 11th Oct 2013, 12:27
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Arabs, you mean Arabs!
No, how do you know that? they are of middle eastern appearance. The rest is speculation.
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Old 11th Oct 2013, 12:46
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Either way up, when you can tell me how to sort out the good ones from the bad, they will all remain "suspicious" to me.

Not my fault
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Old 11th Oct 2013, 13:12
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Of course they need to profile. It happens everywhere else in life. A 45 year old married mother of three will get a totally different insurance quote for a minivan than a 17 year old single male would for a Corvette. That's life.
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Old 11th Oct 2013, 16:13
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You'd be surprised how much common sense profiling takes place. This was post-9/11 and I got pulled at the gate. I ticked ever box, single bloke, 20-29, one way ticket paid in cash. They took one look at me, looked at my ticket, realised I was staff, looked at my UK airport ID and away I went. Sometimes common sense prevails.
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Old 11th Oct 2013, 17:06
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The fact that it is deemed not to require further investigation means it could have been an "Official Test of Security".
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Old 11th Oct 2013, 17:45
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That occurred to me as well. Tiger team attack.
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Old 11th Oct 2013, 18:36
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BBC News - Easyjet plane diverts to Stansted after security alert
A passenger jet was diverted to Stansted Airport in Essex following a security alert.
The Easyjet plane, with 151 passengers on board, had been travelling from Hamburg in Germany to Luton.
The flight landed at about 17:30 BST and was met by the police who boarded the plane, an Easyjet spokesman confirmed.
Essex Police said the passengers were safe and well and the plane was expected to be cleared to fly to Luton.
In a statement, Easyjet said the Airbus A319 aircraft, which also has six crew aboard, had been diverted as a "precautionary measure".
"We would like to thank passengers for their patience and apologise for any inconvenience caused," it said.
An Essex Police spokesman said the plane was in the process of being cleared for take-off.
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Old 11th Oct 2013, 19:14
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No connection with the thread subject.
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Old 11th Oct 2013, 21:22
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Originally Posted by wild goose View Post
This PC nonsense is so ridiculous!
Arabs, you mean Arabs!
You can say it, it's not a curse, it's an ethnic identity.

Why are people so scared of using the term?
Well for one you're forgetting the fact that a large number of terrorists in the world today aren't Arab (North Africa and Pakistan are not part of "Arabia")
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Old 11th Oct 2013, 21:41
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Paranoia..............

Isn't this what Terrorism is all about? Generating extreme paranoia within the other party in "the feud"?

Terrorism is also so unpredictable. Unlike armed forces massing prior to action, where the intent and potential schedule is apparent.

It must seem to lots of folk the technique is having a huge impact by rattling many if someone with an upset stomach and an olive skin is considered a security risk. Or, opening overhead luggage bins, looking for your carry-on baggage..........?
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Old 11th Oct 2013, 23:47
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For one it seems that you are not aware that Pakistan is not considered the Middle East and that the natives of North Africa, i.e. Morrocco eastwards to Egypt are all considered Arabs.
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Old 11th Oct 2013, 23:55
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Old 13th Oct 2013, 21:27
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Profiling risky unless large random element

My experience immediately post 911 was that the profiling was completely crazy and blatantly racist.

In a queue I was in every non-white in the queue was selected for search, no white was searched. It included a black family who were incredibly loud and american annoying perhaps but given a mum dad and two kids not much of a threat. As I was white I did not get searched myself.

The problem is that if the searches are predictable they lose any value. There are white terrorists of various types. It reminds me of my many trips to Israwl where security was tight including a long if very predictable and fomulaic interview for non-Israeli passport holders and carry on baggage X-rays but perfunctory at best for Israeli passport holders. The inevitable happened and an Israeli passport holder attempted to hijack a plane with a knife. It was noticeable after this they started having security checks for Israeli and non-Israeli passport holders which was a great relieve as I had identified it as a serious security flaw on my first trip.
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Old 14th Oct 2013, 04:11
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Originally Posted by Piltdown Man
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...and interrogated on arrival?

No! That delight is only dished out by the USCIS to tourists and families going to Disney World!
cbp not uscis. uscis gives out green cards
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 08:31
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Why are people so scared of using the term?
For the same reason they are scared of someone using the toilet on a plane - they just copy those around them without thinking.
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 08:56
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In all seriousness. Should this be discussed on an internet forum?
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 09:01
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REALLY ! With all this training, , most of you have still not understood the "profile" of the threat.

A Reminder.... They are likely to be MOSLEM this means they are forbidden to drink alcohol.....
and you're all wondering why they do "dry" runs?....kids today
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 09:26
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The white terrorists are madder than the regular ones. Heard of the White Widow? Would you spot her in a queue to board your aircraft? I wouldn't...
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 13:51
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The sad thing is that they only ever need to do "dry runs" now. So deep is the general paranoia that terrorism can now be carried out ad-infinitum with no need to resort to the inconvenience of real guns and bombs.
Worse; they don't even need to do "dry runs".
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 16:40
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Originally Posted by PiggyBack View Post
My experience immediately post 911 was that the profiling was completely crazy and blatantly racist.

In a queue I was in every non-white in the queue was selected for search, no white was searched. It included a black family who were incredibly loud and american annoying perhaps but given a mum dad and two kids not much of a threat. As I was white I did not get searched myself.

The problem is that if the searches are predictable they lose any value. There are white terrorists of various types.
I am not sure that is how profiling is actually implemented. I was unfortunate to have a really long layover due to a delayed inbound with an arrival time that was always 30 minutes away at an airport that will remain nameless

It was at the time that TSA were carrying out 'random searches' at the departure gates. I watched a particular 4 man team check out three departing aircraft. They obviously had some intel of some sort as they only appeared to be stopping women below the age of 30 and making careful searches of their bags. After their exhausting hour at the gate they were replaced with a team that was all female - this group obviously had different intel as they were searching young men.

It does not increase ones sense of 'security'
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