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Europe wide ATC strike on 10 October

Old 28th Sep 2013, 13:43
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Scandis not striking either... -integrated their airspace long ago too...
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Old 28th Sep 2013, 13:52
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Both the Norwegian and Danish controller unions have stated that strike is NOT on their agenda, because it would be illegal.

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Old 28th Sep 2013, 17:41
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Those ANSPs that are not on strike may very well be 'working to rule', which depending on the centre concerned could very easily mean a 30-40% reduction in hourly traffic figures.
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 15:10
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Originally Posted by BeT View Post
Those ANSPs that are not on strike may very well be 'working to rule', which depending on the centre concerned could very easily mean a 30-40% reduction in hourly traffic figures.
Or every controller on the morning shift calls in sick.
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 15:53
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Originally Posted by Ian W View Post
Or every controller on the morning shift calls in sick.
How would that be different from what happens every day ?
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 22:33
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I guess one result of Spanish controllers striking would mean that Spanish carriers would, for a change, get the same priority as all non Spanish carriers. Both getting no service would level the field for at least one day.
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Old 30th Sep 2013, 16:21
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I asked German ATC about wether to take the 10th off. He told me to watch the press, and I would know...
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Old 30th Sep 2013, 17:07
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Just had a look at some of the larger European airline websites and there is no mention of this disruption at all. If European air travel is going to be severely disrupted in ten days from now, the message is not getting across.
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 09:02
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Traveling on 10 Oct

Thanks for the updates. I go on break on Oct 10th and cant convince my company to buy me another ticket to stay away from Europe and since there is ZERO press releases, they won't exchange my ticket
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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 17:37
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Old 4th Oct 2013, 11:49
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From the Network Operations Portal of Eurocontrol:

strike will affect
Portugal: 0600-0800 and 1400-1600 UTC - see NOTAMs A/Ds, ACCs
France: 0400-1800 UTC - no NOTAM yet
Spain: 0700-0900 and 1500-1700 UTC - no NOTAM yet

more to come later.

https://www.public.cfmu.eurocontrol....pec/index.html
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Old 4th Oct 2013, 15:37
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And now this, from:-
https://www.public.cfmu.eurocontrol....pec/index.html

"European ATC industrial action cancelled for 10/10/2013"

Can anyone verify ?
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Old 4th Oct 2013, 15:52
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The strike is over!

FRANKFURT, Oct 4 (Reuters) - The air traffic controllers union in Europe (ATCEUC) has called off a strike planned for Oct. 10 after the European Commission signalled its willingness to renegotiate plans to liberalise civil airspace.

European air traffic controllers call off Oct. 10 strike
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Old 4th Oct 2013, 15:55
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Union Press release here:

http://www.atceuc.org/upload/ATC-EUC...-to-listen.pdf
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Old 4th Oct 2013, 22:06
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Europe wide ATC strike on 10 October

http://www.ainonline.com/sites/default/files/pdf/notice-to-travellers.pdf
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Old 5th Oct 2013, 06:28
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I refer the right honourable lady or gentleman to BeT's most recent post (permalink #30) and all the subsequent posts.....

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Old 5th Oct 2013, 08:05
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Thanks Wiggy re http://www.atceuc.org/upload/ATC-EUC...-to-listen.pdf

Proves that pressure often pays off. Good points for ATCEUC ! As usual those that were against this will benefit nevertheless from the actions of the few, but that has always been the case..
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Old 8th Oct 2013, 23:28
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The rest of Europe may have decided to postpone action but the French have just released the following NOTAM:

(A5702/13 NOTAMN
Q) LFXX/QXXXX/IV/NBO/E /000/999/4504N00053E999
A) LFMM LFRR LFBB LFEE LFFF B) 1310100400 C) 1310101800
E) DUE TO A STRIKE AFFECTING FRENCH CIVIL AVIATION SERVICES,
SOME DISTURBANCES MIGHT AFFECT FRENCH ATS,AIS AND COM SERVICES:
1-A MINIMUM SERVICE WILL BE ENSURED IN ACCS AND AT
LFPG/LFPO/LFSB/LFST/LFLL/LFLC/LFMN/LFML/LFKB/LFKC/LFKJ/LFBD/LFBI/LFBL
/LFBO/LFRG/LFRS AND OVERSEAS AIRPORTS. ACTUAL ATC CAPACITY WILL BE
DETERMINED ACCORDING TO AVAILABLE STAFF.
2-AT OTHER AERODROMES,ATS SERVICES MIGHT BE UNAVAILABLE DURING
CERTAIN PERIODS NOTIFIED BY NOTAMS.
3-AIRCRAFT OPERATORS ARE REQUESTED TO REDUCE THE FLIGHT THEY
SCHEDULED BY 30 PER CENT (FROM 6 MOVEMENTS) ON THURSDAY 10 OCTOBER ON
PARIS ORLY, PARIS CDG AND BEAUVAIS PLATFORMS, FOR FLIGHT INBOUNB,
OUTBOUND AND CROSSING LFMM AND LFBB FIR.THIS REDUCTION IS REQUESTED
FOR FLIGHTS DEPARTING OR ARRIVING BEFORE 12H00UTC AT THOSE PLATEFORMS
4-AIRCRAFT OPERATORS ARE REQUESTED TO REDUCE THE FLIGHT THEY
SCHEDULE BY 30 PER CENT (FROM 6 MOVEMENTS) ON THURSDAY 10 OCT AT
MARSEILLE LFMM AND LYON LFLL PLATEFORMS
5-AIRCRAFT OPERATORS SHALL SEND REMAINING PROGRAM AND CANCELLED
FLIGHTS BEFORE WEDNESDAY 09 OCT 10H00UTC TO DGAC/DTA BY MAIL TO
PROGRAMMES-COMPAGNIES.DTA(AT)AVIATION-CIVILE.GOUV.FR
6- FLIGHT PLANS EXCEEDING THOSE LIMITATIONS COULD BE REJECTED.
7-TERRITORIAL CONTINUITY FLIGHTS (CORSICA AND DOM-TOM) ARE NOT
CONCERNED BY THIS REQUEST
8-AIRCRAFT OPERATORS MUST SYSTEMATICALLY CANCEL ALL PLN, RPL OR FPL
FOR THE FLIGHTS NOT PERFORMED
RMK : INFORMATION ON REAL TIME SITUATION WILL BE AVAILABLE ON THE
FOLLOWING INTERNET WEBSITE HTTP://DSNADO.CANALBLOG.COM)

From the Eurocontrol Network Manager NOP headline news:


It is expected that all 5 French ACCs will implement a significant reduction in capacity and consequent regulations starting from approximately 0400 UTC.
It is expected that these capacities will change as staff report for duty as follows:

Paris and Reims ACCs (LFFF/LFEE):
Capacity is expected to become available during the early part of the morning and precautionary regulations should be cancelled by 0600 UTC.

Brest and Bordeaux ACCs (LFRR/LFBB):
A minimum service of approximately 33% of normal capacity will available during the morning. This is expected to increase from 0900 UTC onwards until 1800 UTC when normal capacities are expected.

Marseille ACC (LFMM):
The strike is expected to be very strongly adhered to with a minimum service of approximately 33% of normal capacity from 0430-1800 UTC with an increase in capacity only after 1800 UTC.

The DGAC is implementing a flight reduction programme as follows:

Arrival and Departures from LFPG, LFPO and LFOB from 0400-1200 UTC from and to the south must be reduced by 30%.
Operators should be prepared to reduce their programmes after 1200 UTC if necessary.

It is currently not clear on the exact definition of South. This will be confirmed by NOTAM as soon as possible and this headline news will be updated accordingly.

Arrival and departures from LFLL and LFML must be reduced by 30% from 0400-1800 UTC as they are wholly within the LFMM ACC.

Operators to LFMN (Nice) are not requested to reduce their flying programmes, as traffic can route via LIMM (Milan ACC) avoiding LFMM ACC.

More information available via the following DGAC link : CanalBlog


NMOC is currently coordinating with surrounding ACCs to ensure maximum capacities.

Rerouting opportunities will be available including:

-Tango Oceanic routes.

-Routes via Algeria and Tunisia.

-The adaptation of military activity which may impact capacity.

NMOC will host a teleconference today at 1230 UTC.
To join this conference.
dial: +32 2 401 54 26 and enter
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Old 9th Oct 2013, 09:38
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What do you expect, they had already planned their day off that day. I suspect they don't even know what they're striking about anymore, but hey you can't let the lack of a good reason stop plans for a strike
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Old 9th Oct 2013, 10:27
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Absolutely typical French. I'm surprized they haven't asked the UK to supply some lovely English lamb for a Barbeque.
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