Runway overrun in thessaloniki
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Video of the landing
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Anyone want to guess the flap setting?
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Around a the minute 01:00 you can see some land with a soccer field below the wing.
That is KalaMaria, and the Soccer field is around 3.2NM on final 16... and in the video it still looks like a clean wing

Enough said
That is KalaMaria, and the Soccer field is around 3.2NM on final 16... and in the video it still looks like a clean wing


Enough said
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BETS.
Doesn't look anywhere near F15.
I'd put my fiver on F5, there's barely any TE deflection nor droop of the canoe fairings.
Maybe it's a new low drag cheap fuel approach??
I'd put my fiver on F5, there's barely any TE deflection nor droop of the canoe fairings.
Maybe it's a new low drag cheap fuel approach??
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The plane touched down where planes from the opposite runway touchdown..
The Final Approach speed was 264kts and the Touch-Down speed was reported being 200-220kts which is terribly fast, especially when you have some hundred meters left. I wonder, how -hard- is it to just go around and make a normal landing? The weather was perfect. Visibility was far. The runway was long. Why didn't they go around? Too bored to waste 15 more minutes of their life? What If I re-sentence myself and say "To waste their life?"
Except that, they landed with Flaps 15 where they should have landed with Full Flaps which is 40 If I am right in a B737. Full flaps could have both reduced speed and increase the aerodynamics in this case, but they made an AirShow-like approach, If not faster.
Here's a link from FlightRadar24's Database:
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The Final Approach speed was 264kts and the Touch-Down speed was reported being 200-220kts which is terribly fast, especially when you have some hundred meters left. I wonder, how -hard- is it to just go around and make a normal landing? The weather was perfect. Visibility was far. The runway was long. Why didn't they go around? Too bored to waste 15 more minutes of their life? What If I re-sentence myself and say "To waste their life?"
Except that, they landed with Flaps 15 where they should have landed with Full Flaps which is 40 If I am right in a B737. Full flaps could have both reduced speed and increase the aerodynamics in this case, but they made an AirShow-like approach, If not faster.
Here's a link from FlightRadar24's Database:
Flightradar24.com - Live flight tracker!
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The amazing thing about this video is that even though they landed at a ridiculous speed and almost within the TDZ at the opposite end they came very close to getting away with it! I wouldn't normally make armchair remarks about airmanship but in this case where the conditions were perfect I will make an exception. The two jackasses up front are as lucky as they are stupid! Lets hope they are never put anywhere near a flightdeck again!
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I wouldn't normally make armchair remarks about airmanship but in this case where the conditions were perfect I will make an exception.
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Good Judgement would be well up in the definition IMHO.
The oldies are the best - A superior pilot has superior skills and superior judgement. By use of their superior judgement they avoid the situations that would require the use if their superior skill.
Go around in other words.
The oldies are the best - A superior pilot has superior skills and superior judgement. By use of their superior judgement they avoid the situations that would require the use if their superior skill.
Go around in other words.