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Old 19th Jun 2013, 16:32
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Video of the landing

Here's a video of the landing.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=540360116028895
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Old 19th Jun 2013, 17:23
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Originally Posted by BOAC post #16
Anyone want to guess the flap setting?
- since no-one has taken up the challenge, I'll open with 15? Possibly a blow-back to 25?
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Old 19th Jun 2013, 17:37
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Around a the minute 01:00 you can see some land with a soccer field below the wing.
That is KalaMaria, and the Soccer field is around 3.2NM on final 16... and in the video it still looks like a clean wing

Enough said
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Old 19th Jun 2013, 17:54
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BOAC - your estimate seconded by me!
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Old 19th Jun 2013, 18:04
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BETS.

Doesn't look anywhere near F15.

I'd put my fiver on F5, there's barely any TE deflection nor droop of the canoe fairings.

Maybe it's a new low drag cheap fuel approach??
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Old 19th Jun 2013, 18:11
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Actual TD point shown by yellow dot!

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Old 19th Jun 2013, 20:30
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Ignoring the airmanship bits here, it speaks well for the stopping power of Fluf.
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Old 19th Jun 2013, 21:15
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Maybe that's what they were applauding

Good job they weren't going t'other way !!
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Old 19th Jun 2013, 21:26
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......or landing in Heraklion!!!
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Old 19th Jun 2013, 22:16
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For those who dont own a FB account

BTW...few hours later again on air..?

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Old 19th Jun 2013, 22:29
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@CG-23 Sailor: Here is a clear need that Google Maps could fulfill with Google Runway View.
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Old 20th Jun 2013, 01:01
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Please cancel the reverse thrust before entering the dirt; it kicks up too much dust and messes up the video.
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Old 20th Jun 2013, 01:02
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The plane touched down where planes from the opposite runway touchdown..
The Final Approach speed was 264kts and the Touch-Down speed was reported being 200-220kts which is terribly fast, especially when you have some hundred meters left. I wonder, how -hard- is it to just go around and make a normal landing? The weather was perfect. Visibility was far. The runway was long. Why didn't they go around? Too bored to waste 15 more minutes of their life? What If I re-sentence myself and say "To waste their life?"

Except that, they landed with Flaps 15 where they should have landed with Full Flaps which is 40 If I am right in a B737. Full flaps could have both reduced speed and increase the aerodynamics in this case, but they made an AirShow-like approach, If not faster.

Here's a link from FlightRadar24's Database:

Flightradar24.com - Live flight tracker!
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Old 20th Jun 2013, 02:01
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Another "famous" AMC Egypt video:

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Old 20th Jun 2013, 02:31
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Too Much Runway Behind

But the main problem was not thr RT, but the length of runway behind them
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Old 20th Jun 2013, 02:36
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Really cant see any excuse for that perfect weather so just poor piloting.(shame to have to say that)
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Old 20th Jun 2013, 09:07
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The amazing thing about this video is that even though they landed at a ridiculous speed and almost within the TDZ at the opposite end they came very close to getting away with it! I wouldn't normally make armchair remarks about airmanship but in this case where the conditions were perfect I will make an exception. The two jackasses up front are as lucky as they are stupid! Lets hope they are never put anywhere near a flightdeck again!
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Old 20th Jun 2013, 09:12
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I wouldn't normally make armchair remarks about airmanship but in this case where the conditions were perfect I will make an exception.
- could you highlight for us what you see as 'airmanship'?
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Old 20th Jun 2013, 09:59
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Good Judgement would be well up in the definition IMHO.

The oldies are the best - A superior pilot has superior skills and superior judgement. By use of their superior judgement they avoid the situations that would require the use if their superior skill.

Go around in other words.
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Old 20th Jun 2013, 10:07
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could you highlight for us what you see as 'airmanship'?
Not screwing up maybe?
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