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Old 10th Apr 2013, 13:30
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LH tail strike in ORD

The SPIEGEL (Lufthansa-Airbus A330 fliegt mit beschädigtem Rumpf über den Atlantik - SPIEGEL ONLINE) and STERN report that an A330 D-AIKJ suffered a tail strike early March in ORD but continued the 8 hour flight to MUC. Plane was then transferred at low altitude to HAM for repair . How likely is it that you don't notice a tail strike on take off sitting up front? Tough to gauge from the one picture I found (http://d1.stern.de/bilder/stern_5/re...twidth_420.jpg).
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Please share the picture that you mention if you expect a technical response
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Click the second link to the picture...
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Didn't hurt LH's share price...
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As far as I know , this aircraft has some device in its tail which comes out and prevents damaging the tail while having a tailstrike : tailstrike airbus - Google zoeken
This is a pic of A380, but I thought the A330 has this device also.
Anyone?
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No such thing on the 330.
Low quality picture but it looks to be only very light abrasion ... Standing by for the data.
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According to the "Stern", the picture shows how the affected area of the aircraft's tail has been marked red. The picture is dated March 19, the incident is said to have happened "early March". "The pressurized part was also affected. But there was no leak in the cabin", the "Stern" report quotes an unnamed BFU source. According to "Spiegel Online", the hull apparently suffered some abrasion. BFU investigation is underway.
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Here´s the link to the AvHerald message:
Accident: Lufthansa A333 at Chicago on Mar 5th 2013, undetected tailstrike on takeoff

So nothing new !! Airplane seems to be repaired and back in service. "Der Spiegel" was late to catch this and make a sensational report about it.
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Thanks for the link. I agree, a bit old. However - do you catch it up front (scraaaaatch) or is it just too noisy during takeoff to hear / feel it? I have no doubts in LH safety, maintenance and service, they do it (in this case) in my lovely hometown, just wondering.
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Link

Here comes another link to LH sites, showing the seating and the area of the scrape underneath the rear doors.
http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/p...%20Version%201
I flew last Oct./Nov. on that type as SLF FRA-SEA-FRA and as far as I remember that area was in flight one of the noisier parts in the cabin. So if it was just a "soft" touch I can imagine that with the engines on t/o thrust the FA´s in the rear as well as the pax may have not noticed the event.

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Airplane seems to be repaired and back in service.
What makes you think that ?

I can't see any evidence of the aircraft having flown since it positioned MUC-HAM in mid-March.
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I think I would have some concerns flying with that particular aircraft after the JAL accident. Hair cracks in the aft pressure dome...? Who knows. Should I be concerned?

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Originally Posted by grimmrad
I think I would have some concerns flying with that particular aircraft after the KAL accident. Hair cracks in the aft pressure dome..
If you're talking about the 747 that had a burst rear pressure dome and crashed killing over five hundred people you'll be referring to JAL and not KAL I presume?
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Good question! Checked again today and it appears the flight I observed on flightradar24 end of March using the same flight number as the damaged A330 for a trip from Hamburg to Frankfurt was not D-AIKJ.
Sorry for the misleading info.
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If you're talking about the 747 that had a burst rear pressure dome and crashed killing over five hundred people you'll be referring to JAL and not KAL I presume?
And if I recall correctly that aircraft was fatally flawed by an incorrect pressure dome repair.
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Originally Posted by P40Warhawk
As far as I know , this aircraft has some device in its tail which comes out and prevents damaging the tail while having a tailstrike (...)
This is a pic of A380, but I thought the A330 has this device also.
Anyone?
Only fitted for test flights by the manufacturer (e.g. minimal lift off speed).

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LH tail strike in ORD

If you're talking about the 747 that had a burst rear pressure dome and crashed killing over five hundred people you'll be referring to JAL and not KAL I presume?

Or possibly the china airlines B747.
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in ORD ?

Anyway, it looks like this or das "etwas ist nicht in ORD-nung in LH" Ja ?
 
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yes, typo corrected. The JAL 747. Now, I have confidence in LH service - but the 747 was repaired by Boing's own people so you would assume they should know what they were doing... But still.

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yes, typo corrected. The JAL 747. Now, I have confidence in LH service - but the 747 was repaired by Boing's own people so you would assume they should know what they were doing... But still.
You really haven't a clue what you're talking about, do you?
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