US Airways: fake pilot in jump seat
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US airport security? nobody checked?
The drama unfolded whilst on the jet while on the ground and at the gate... and not ready for takeoff or door closings.
The miscreant was requested by the skipper to vacate his jet and thus you know the rest of the story.
Bottom line... a non-event event.
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Too many players in the U.S. media. They are piranhas on a constant quest.
All checks were accomplished by TSA. He went through security in a plain shirt with an embroidered Air France Emblem on his shirt. He showed his ticket and a form of ID, probably his Passport. No guns, no WMD, no bombs in his knikers or shoes.
The drama unfolded whilst on the jet while on the ground and at the gate... and not ready for takeoff or door closings.
The miscreant was requested by the skipper to vacate his jet and thus you know the rest of the story.
Bottom line... a non-event event.
The drama unfolded whilst on the jet while on the ground and at the gate... and not ready for takeoff or door closings.
The miscreant was requested by the skipper to vacate his jet and thus you know the rest of the story.
Bottom line... a non-event event.
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Hang on a minute I've done jumpseat many times. I always speak to the skipper before being allowed in. Even got an ex of mine in on a 767 because I vouched for her. What's this Captain doing?
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A Frenchman has been charged with impersonating a pilot after he was found in the cockpit of a plane due to take off in Philadelphia, police say.
Philippe Jernnard, from La Rochelle, France, was wearing a shirt with an Air France logo and a blazer with epaulets.
Philippe Jernnard, from La Rochelle, France, was wearing a shirt with an Air France logo and a blazer with epaulets.
Then i take it they are going to arrest ALL Air France pilots then?
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When passing yourself off as a pilot, don't ask the flight crew, "Hey! What does that thing do?"
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Of course we're only getting half the story here I'm sure. I suspect the guy probably just wanted to ride in the cockpit and tried to pass himself off as an Air France pilot. It's possible he got away with it in the past in Europe. Quite possible that a little "shop" talk made the Captain suspicious about his credentials. Silly on his part but no great harm done. I don't think it warrants the usual totally over-the-top paranoid American reaction.
Unless of course he was in his FULL uniform going home.
I suspect the guy probably just wanted to ride in the cockpit and tried to pass himself off as an Air France pilot
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I'm french and I've always allowed and welcomed jump seats. Many people leave me their phone number or address and tell me "you have a place to stay in LA/FL/NY..." Many upgrades as well to J class.
On the other hand, i've never had the pleasure to jumpseat on certain companies, but never blamed the pilots. You never know how their company might react if they found out. I thought everyone would know this by now. Specially you , Down In 3 greens
On the other hand, i've never had the pleasure to jumpseat on certain companies, but never blamed the pilots. You never know how their company might react if they found out. I thought everyone would know this by now. Specially you , Down In 3 greens
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Long ago, in the 20th century, pilots were trusted to welcome suitable visitors into the cockpit in any stage of flight. This old granny glider pilot got to sit in the jump seat in a BA jumbo to Philadelphia, and sat silent while they did the approach and landing on what appeared to be a runway way TOO SHORT!
They let my dear husband Henry, a retired army officer, sit in the jump seat on the return flight, with a lady captain doing the flying, and he got to see the approach and landing at LHR, the lucky so and so. Alas, those days are gone forever....
You guys must really get bored on transatlantic flights....locked into your sterile cockpits....
They let my dear husband Henry, a retired army officer, sit in the jump seat on the return flight, with a lady captain doing the flying, and he got to see the approach and landing at LHR, the lucky so and so. Alas, those days are gone forever....
You guys must really get bored on transatlantic flights....locked into your sterile cockpits....
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Dear Mary, fly with the right airlines and you will still be able to get in-flight cockpit visits. Only the Americans, the Brits and a few others have very little choice in the matter. Many European carriers still allow their captains to decide for themselves.
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I am sorry but your wrong
Most of the airlines now have rule banning any person on jumpseat except those authorize by the Airlines management and the Captain
And in most airlines around the world you may have to look for another job if you d ont follow Cie rules
I use to have people's visiting the cockpit all the time but now sorry it is finished not because I d ont want but because I c ant
Most of the airlines now have rule banning any person on jumpseat except those authorize by the Airlines management and the Captain
And in most airlines around the world you may have to look for another job if you d ont follow Cie rules
I use to have people's visiting the cockpit all the time but now sorry it is finished not because I d ont want but because I c ant
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I WISH>>>
I wish I could give the jumpseat to anyone I wanted to (as captain).
But the first people I would give the jumpseat to are our own airlines FA's, so they can know what is going on a bit better.
The next, really good looking women. And in most cases that would be one in the same as the FA's.
One time on a reposition flight, I did allow an FA to sit on the jumpseat (prior to 911).
I will also never forget, as a 7 year old boy going to the cockpit of a Convair 240 of United Airlines (or was it a 580?) flying from Reno to San Francisco. Props going in and out of synch, big orange radar scope with hood and bouncing up and down in mountain wave. Giant fricking throttles doubled for each pilot. And it seemed so big.
I would love to put people in the jumpseat for landings to the south at KDCA, or doing the Long Island Expressway Visual to KLGA, or even a visual to runway 13 at KLGA.
Those
terrorists and early hijackers really up some fun times!!!!! May have ruined my love life too.
But the first people I would give the jumpseat to are our own airlines FA's, so they can know what is going on a bit better.
The next, really good looking women. And in most cases that would be one in the same as the FA's.
One time on a reposition flight, I did allow an FA to sit on the jumpseat (prior to 911).
I will also never forget, as a 7 year old boy going to the cockpit of a Convair 240 of United Airlines (or was it a 580?) flying from Reno to San Francisco. Props going in and out of synch, big orange radar scope with hood and bouncing up and down in mountain wave. Giant fricking throttles doubled for each pilot. And it seemed so big.
I would love to put people in the jumpseat for landings to the south at KDCA, or doing the Long Island Expressway Visual to KLGA, or even a visual to runway 13 at KLGA.
Those
terrorists and early hijackers really up some fun times!!!!! May have ruined my love life too.