US Airways: fake pilot in jump seat
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US Airways: fake pilot in jump seat
From BBC news online:
Frenchman 'posing as pilot' found in US jet cockpit
Frenchman 'posing as pilot' found in US jet cockpit
A Frenchman has been charged with impersonating a pilot after he was found in the cockpit of a plane due to take off in Philadelphia, police say.
Philippe Jernnard, from La Rochelle, France, was wearing a shirt with an Air France logo and a blazer with epaulets.
He was discovered in the jump seat behind the pilot on a US Airways plane on Wednesday evening, an officer said.
The FBI is investigating the incident and police said they expect federal charges may be filed.
Mr Jernnard, 61, faces state charges including criminal trespassing, tampering with records, impersonating a person privately employed, and providing false identification to law enforcement, Philadelphia police told the BBC.
When he was found in the cockpit, Mr Jernnard identified himself as a 747 pilot for Air France, authorities said.
The suspect, who had a ticket for the US Airways flight to Florida, could not provide proof of his credentials.
He was also reportedly carrying a fake Air France crew identification card.
Officer Christine O'Brien says Mr Jernnard became argumentative and was escorted from the plane.
He is being held on $1m bail (£657,000), US media report.
Philippe Jernnard, from La Rochelle, France, was wearing a shirt with an Air France logo and a blazer with epaulets.
He was discovered in the jump seat behind the pilot on a US Airways plane on Wednesday evening, an officer said.
The FBI is investigating the incident and police said they expect federal charges may be filed.
Mr Jernnard, 61, faces state charges including criminal trespassing, tampering with records, impersonating a person privately employed, and providing false identification to law enforcement, Philadelphia police told the BBC.
When he was found in the cockpit, Mr Jernnard identified himself as a 747 pilot for Air France, authorities said.
The suspect, who had a ticket for the US Airways flight to Florida, could not provide proof of his credentials.
He was also reportedly carrying a fake Air France crew identification card.
Officer Christine O'Brien says Mr Jernnard became argumentative and was escorted from the plane.
He is being held on $1m bail (£657,000), US media report.
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Must be a total fruitcake, if you really have to pull a stunt like that, I wouldn't have thought the U S of A was a very good location if you ever want to see daylight again..
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US Airways: fake pilot in jump seat
Not sure how this chap got so far. Did someone leave the door open or was he let in?
The Associated Press: Air France: Man found in cockpit not an employee
The crew of a US Airways flight bound for West Palm Beach, Fla., found Philippe Jernnard of La Rochelle, France, in the jump seat behind the pilot on Wednesday evening, removing him after he was unable to produce valid credentials and became argumentative, police said.
Jernnard, who was a ticketed passenger, was wearing a white shirt with an Air France logo and had a black jacket with epaulets on the shoulders, police said. Officer Christine O'Brien said police found him in possession of a counterfeit Air France crew member ID card.
Air France said Jernnard is not one of its employees and was not wearing the airline's uniform.
Jernnard, who was a ticketed passenger, was wearing a white shirt with an Air France logo and had a black jacket with epaulets on the shoulders, police said. Officer Christine O'Brien said police found him in possession of a counterfeit Air France crew member ID card.
Air France said Jernnard is not one of its employees and was not wearing the airline's uniform.
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Not sure how this is newsworthy. At the gate which this obviously was with an on time departure the cockpit door is open so anyone can enter with the pilots permission. Absolutely no breach of the cockpit, maybe unauthorized admittance into the airplane. After 911 we still let kids come up until approaching departure time with their parent, expecially if she was pretty. As far as I know it is still that way. Every airline has their jumpseat procedure and not all are the same.
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Mmmm...
and harassing genuine flight crew to within a millimetre of their gonads is an effective way to stop this sort of whacko?
Sort your ideas out, you numpties in the "security" business.
and harassing genuine flight crew to within a millimetre of their gonads is an effective way to stop this sort of whacko?
Sort your ideas out, you numpties in the "security" business.
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Has it been reported anywhere that the captain was going to let him ride in the cockpit?
Sounds like just a visit before block out to me. The USAir crew was just greeting a (supposed) colleague.
Sounds like just a visit before block out to me. The USAir crew was just greeting a (supposed) colleague.
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Has the smell of an over-reactive response from Management coming on...(i.e.-Barring the jumpseat)....I hope not, but everyone knows "Us pilots" can't think for ourselves....
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I've read many accounts of this incident. It appears that some are saying the man was IN THE JUMPSEAT behind the captain.
But I think it is a description of the position of the jumpseat.
And who would wear his epaulets on his day off? Unless of course he was in his FULL uniform going home. And what Air France Pilot commutes to West Palm beach?
I have a feeling this guy was no where near actually getting into the jumpseat, with the plane pushed back ready to taxi.
Most airlines have a specific list of reciprocol arrangment jumpseats and I don't think foreign airlines are on it for USAIR>
OH, and for once and for always, The Wright Brothers invented the airplane and its control system. Flying a barn door with a prop on it isn't an airplane.
The breakthrough of the Wrights was coordinating rudder and wing warping (in lieu of aileron) in their 1902 glider.
Once they had control, the engine was not so much more.
Sheesh.
But I think it is a description of the position of the jumpseat.
And who would wear his epaulets on his day off? Unless of course he was in his FULL uniform going home. And what Air France Pilot commutes to West Palm beach?
I have a feeling this guy was no where near actually getting into the jumpseat, with the plane pushed back ready to taxi.
Most airlines have a specific list of reciprocol arrangment jumpseats and I don't think foreign airlines are on it for USAIR>
OH, and for once and for always, The Wright Brothers invented the airplane and its control system. Flying a barn door with a prop on it isn't an airplane.
The breakthrough of the Wrights was coordinating rudder and wing warping (in lieu of aileron) in their 1902 glider.
Once they had control, the engine was not so much more.
Sheesh.
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Hi,
toffeez
1st engined flight by Richard Pearse, Waitohi, New Zealand, March 31, 1902. Karl Jatho, 1st flight, 18.August 1903, Hannover-Vahrenheide, real controlled flights.
The Wrights, 1st flight, 17. December 1903. They wasnt the 1st, but still claim this!
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French kids are still taught that Clément Ader deserved the honours the rest of the world accorded the Wright Bros.
The "cultural exception", I suppose.
The "cultural exception", I suppose.
The Wrights, 1st flight, 17. December 1903. They wasnt the 1st, but still claim this!
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The breakthrough of the Wrights was coordinating rudder and wing warping (in lieu of aileron) in their 1902 glider.
The breakthrough of the Wrights was coordinating rudder and wing warping (in lieu of aileron) in their 1902 glider.
Coincidently he also invented spoked wheels in 1808 which the Wright Bro's were using 100 years later in their bike store.
Less successful was his gun powder driven engine added later to power the glider .
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Let's not forget Swen "McFly" Glocnic who in 1393 leaped from a cliff in a craft composed of oakem,tar and linen, hit 88 mph and was instantly transported into 1983 .
He later became a millionaire as an owner of 12 TCBY franchises.
He later became a millionaire as an owner of 12 TCBY franchises.