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Old 9th Dec 2012, 19:25
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the tanker launched, not sure about the pointy jets.

going to be interesting to read any incident report coming from this. hope the guys dont get in the dwang; an honest cock up no doubt.
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Old 9th Dec 2012, 20:20
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Move along, there's nothing to see here - it happens on a regular basis. Personal record was a well known holiday firm's jet not talking to anyone from the middle of France until TOD for Manchester.
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Old 9th Dec 2012, 20:22
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not talking to anyone from the middle of France until TOD for Manchester.
- sheer heaven!
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Old 9th Dec 2012, 21:23
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I remember a PIA doing that as well, lost contact and didnt come back until quite close to Manchester:


Fighters scrambled to meet silent PIA jumbo | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk
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Old 10th Dec 2012, 04:52
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So no RT for perhaps 30 mins

Might just suggest a problem, if middle of night over EU it can be quiet, at Glf 550 levels..
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Old 13th Dec 2012, 21:46
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My understanding is that after the french released the aircraft to a Swanwick civil freq the aircraft was asked to call up on a LJAO vhf freq and a tiffy also came up saying on freq that he was 1 mile in trail. The tiffy did orbit near Luton until the aircraft landed before rtb Coningsby. Comms also heard on a UHF freq with Scampton.
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Old 13th Dec 2012, 22:38
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Heard it all on 121.500 too. Sounded to me like they had dozed off - the fighter called them repeatedly for a good 10min before he eventually got an answer, all the while flying formation off their right wing. When they did answer, the (American-sounding) crew didn't sound too proud...
It would be interesting to know the age of these American pilots...
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Old 14th Dec 2012, 02:49
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Why relevant?
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Old 14th Dec 2012, 02:59
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Age may play a part, but their flight schedule probably has more to do with it.
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If it was two 70 year old+ pilots, nodding off would be the norm, not the exception.
Add a crappy flight schedule to that
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Old 14th Dec 2012, 06:55
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Long Lander, it is unlikely that the windows would have been covered in newspapers, it was night time.
Why did that not happen in the old days, btw.

Did you use curtains instead of newspapers?

Flying into Belize in the 80's the troops used to love being escorted in by a couple of Harriers, to fend off the sharpened Mangos...
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Old 14th Dec 2012, 08:55
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Nah. Just drop below, light burner, and accelerate in front, then high g pullup and thump them good.
ahh the good old 'thumper'


Surprised they weren't shouting "on guard" rather than listening to what was going on!
atch! there goes my coffee..


Why did that not happen in the old days, btw.

Did you use curtains instead of newspapers?
nah in the old days they used wooden shutters

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Old 14th Dec 2012, 10:05
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In the old days I used to fly my corporate pax from Scotland to Bristol 'off airways' whenever possible and used to route past Warton talking to ATC there. One 'mate' kindly accepted my invitation it bring his Tornado alongside to 'interest' my pax, and 'left' us from the port side absolutely splendidly with a reheat 'rotation'. They were like a bunch of excited kids for the rest of the journey - and I had to change their seat covers. The noise was impressive.
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