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FRED WHELAN 6th Dec 2012 02:01

Gulfstream escorted
 
Any info on a Gulfstream intercepted over France then escorted into British airspace by QRA? possible loss of comms but treated as suspected hijacking.

Gulfstreamaviator 6th Dec 2012 03:25

VVIP service
 
Please tell more...

I always ask my pax to look out of the window, for the escorts, but not yet had the pleasure.

thunderbird7 6th Dec 2012 06:09

Heard the start on guard. French Air Force intercepted it, think it was heading for Luton, not sure what started it but asked for flight plan number, once happy, released it to London but all southbound departures from LHR halted, re-started then stopped again so don't know what happened in the end.

noneya 6th Dec 2012 06:48

What time was this yesterday?

FRED WHELAN 6th Dec 2012 08:08

About 01.30 Zulu this morning

seat 0A 6th Dec 2012 08:13

Were there many departures from LHR affected at 02:00?

thunderbird7 6th Dec 2012 10:43

More like 2230. Yes, bit of a queue.

Cocknbull 6th Dec 2012 14:26

N223GA, northbound DBBB to EGGW. Lost comms for a while, eventually had a chat with his 'escort' and continued to destination after being held at the FIR boundary with the UK.

Interesting who it belongs to........

5711N0205W 6th Dec 2012 19:42

Jack Niklaus... if my Googling is correct.

Lonewolf_50 6th Dec 2012 20:48

Are you referring to the famous Golfer, Jack Nicklaus?

VinRouge 7th Dec 2012 20:52

Was in the area at the time working maastricht then london. The fighter was on their right wing for a good 10 mins (call sign French fighter). Sounded almost as if they may have nodded off... Started around 23:10.

Lesson in remaining in contact with guard most definitely. They were handed over to a London freq I didn't recognise at around 23:35 after being assigned a heading away from the uk.

Horrible to listen to, was thinking of the Helios crash for about 5 mins before they started to respond.

FougaMagister 7th Dec 2012 21:05

Heard it all on 121.500 too. Sounded to me like they had dozed off - the fighter called them repeatedly for a good 10min before he eventually got an answer, all the while flying formation off their right wing. When they did answer, the (American-sounding) crew didn't sound too proud... But the Mirage (or Rafale) pilot was 100% professional throughout. Apparently, Brest ATC could not contact the Gulfstream, so the QRA must have been scrambled from nearby Lorient. According to the interceptor pilot, N223GA was heading North at FL400 at this point.

Cheers :cool:

PURPLE PITOT 8th Dec 2012 11:47

Surprised they weren't shouting "on guard" rather than listening to what was going on!

LongLander 8th Dec 2012 12:23

These days like as not the cockpit windows were covered with newspapers to "keep the sun out..."

Bit hard to see the intercepting a/c when the sports section is clipped to the pillars.

Wouldn't have happened in the old days. :rolleyes:

VinRouge 8th Dec 2012 12:23

Donno what the procedures are, but I bet if the fighter had turned his mode 3c back on it would have have given the crew a bit of a startle if they were nodded off!

JW411 8th Dec 2012 14:27

I got intercepted several times by the Russians (MIG19s) in the Berlin Corridors in the 1960s and they always came up on the starboard side.

Maybe it depends on which side of the road you drive on at home!

sycamore 8th Dec 2012 16:10

Should`ve just pulled in front,lit the burners,then hit the brakes...

Machinbird 8th Dec 2012 16:55


Should`ve just pulled in front,lit the burners,then hit the brakes...
Nah. Just drop below, light burner, and accelerate in front, then high g pullup and thump them good.:}

JW411 8th Dec 2012 17:07

Come to think of it, we used to put a special squawk on the box which meant that we were happy to be intercepted. The 6th Fleet also used to come up the right side.

I can well remember standing up in the bay windows (it was a Belfast) and offering the two bone domes in an F-4 Phantom a cigarette and a Coca Cola.

FRED WHELAN 9th Dec 2012 16:08

At the time this was happening I was lnformed that our own QRA were launched to intercept with a possible escort to Stansted. So does anybody know for certain if we did intercept or not?


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