Ryanair Overheats Passengers At Eindhoven Airport
Can you just remind me how many 737s (or DC-9s) that your last company operated?
Ryanair curently operate 200 Boeing 737-800s.
Ryanair curently operate 200 Boeing 737-800s.
I made my comment, as far I can recall, when flying for TEA around 1990 when the industry was going through a tough period.
I believe the real assets in any Company are the people who have the skills to fly, maintain and train etc. Without such people these Companies cannot exist. I include almost everyone in a company when I make these remarks - even the person who services the washroom has to have certain skills to do so efficiently and effectively.
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I wonder if you also buy your clothes from far east sweat shops. Surely you must know, especially as M'OL has told you, that it's not possible to make a profit on tickets <€50.
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blind pew.......
Are you suggesting that there are aircraft flying around carrying fuel for no other purpose than to ensure that the c of g remains within limits?
What aircraft type is this?
Trim fuel.....
Which meant it landed outside of the c of g limits and risked standing on its tail.
Which meant it landed outside of the c of g limits and risked standing on its tail.
What aircraft type is this?
Not any longer sadly.
It had a pointed beak and in my opinion the most beautiful aircraft ever to take to the skies.
Never a real success cause the yanks couldn't build one and it's demise was accelerated by the frogs.
It had a pointed beak and in my opinion the most beautiful aircraft ever to take to the skies.
Never a real success cause the yanks couldn't build one and it's demise was accelerated by the frogs.
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it's simple
MOL has built a successful airline - how many people can say that in the last 20 years in the Western World?
he's done it by stripping out all the romance and as many of the costs as he can - he treats it as a bus company
those of us who feel flying is something different should not apply to work there
Personally I find his aeroplanes grubby and his personal attitude to the customers to be awful (he doesn't NEED to act like a s***) but they fly to places others don't, they are at least as dependable as anyone else and they can be remarkable value whilst "better " airlines are going out of business every month
but there is no romance
MOL has built a successful airline - how many people can say that in the last 20 years in the Western World?
he's done it by stripping out all the romance and as many of the costs as he can - he treats it as a bus company
those of us who feel flying is something different should not apply to work there
Personally I find his aeroplanes grubby and his personal attitude to the customers to be awful (he doesn't NEED to act like a s***) but they fly to places others don't, they are at least as dependable as anyone else and they can be remarkable value whilst "better " airlines are going out of business every month
but there is no romance
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Broiling...
Is this thread R-bashing, or something to do with them
broiling their passengers ? I am interested to know what
the circumstances really were, and does one have rights
under the circumstances originally described (btw, Ryanair or
any airline). Broiling does not seem to me to be a sucessful
business model for the long run.
broiling their passengers ? I am interested to know what
the circumstances really were, and does one have rights
under the circumstances originally described (btw, Ryanair or
any airline). Broiling does not seem to me to be a sucessful
business model for the long run.
MOL has built a successful airline
You could say the practice of sending children up chimneys in the Victorian age was "successful" - whether it was ethical is another matter.
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Does anyone work for Ryanair? Has anyone worked for them? Does anyone actually know the details of this incident?
Speculation is not big or clever. Ryanair published many memos about this type of situation and the dangers of a hot cabin. The situation was much more complex and muddy than these simple mutterings suggest.
There is not a climate of fear either. Some people like Ryanair, some don't. Some moan a lot, others enjoy the job. Just like any other airline or business. Maybe those that never worked there (or even flew a real plane) should hold back a little on their opinions if they don't have first hand experience of it.
Anyway, happy flying everybody. This was my first response for 5 years. See you in another 5. Until then, I'll see you in the sky!
Speculation is not big or clever. Ryanair published many memos about this type of situation and the dangers of a hot cabin. The situation was much more complex and muddy than these simple mutterings suggest.
There is not a climate of fear either. Some people like Ryanair, some don't. Some moan a lot, others enjoy the job. Just like any other airline or business. Maybe those that never worked there (or even flew a real plane) should hold back a little on their opinions if they don't have first hand experience of it.
Anyway, happy flying everybody. This was my first response for 5 years. See you in another 5. Until then, I'll see you in the sky!
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How's this for a back of the envelope calculation...
A319 cabin width is 3.7m x 24m long. If you assume it's a cylinder the volume works out at 258 cubic meters. Lets say half is taken by the hold, seat, floors, bins, passengers etc leaving a volume of air about 129 cubic meters.
If there are 124 passenger that's about 1 cubic meter = 1000L of air each.
Google says that a human produces about 1.7 cubic feet = 50L of C02 per hour. So after 1 hour sealed up without any ventilation the CO2 level would be..
50/1000 * 100 = 5%
Toxicity of Carbon Dioxide CO<sub>2</sub> Gas Exposure, poisoning symptoms, exposure limits, and Links to Toxic Gas Testing Procedures C02 Gas toxicity CO<sub>2</sub> exposure limits
The maths appears to suggest CO2 levels could get worryingly high if there is no ventilation.
Have I made a mistake in my sums?
PS: I picked the A319 at random.
A319 cabin width is 3.7m x 24m long. If you assume it's a cylinder the volume works out at 258 cubic meters. Lets say half is taken by the hold, seat, floors, bins, passengers etc leaving a volume of air about 129 cubic meters.
If there are 124 passenger that's about 1 cubic meter = 1000L of air each.
Google says that a human produces about 1.7 cubic feet = 50L of C02 per hour. So after 1 hour sealed up without any ventilation the CO2 level would be..
50/1000 * 100 = 5%
Toxicity of Carbon Dioxide CO<sub>2</sub> Gas Exposure, poisoning symptoms, exposure limits, and Links to Toxic Gas Testing Procedures C02 Gas toxicity CO<sub>2</sub> exposure limits
"Breathing rate doubles at 3% CO2 and is four times the normal rate at 5% CO2.
Toxic levels of carbon dioxide: at levels above 5%, concentration CO2 is directly toxic."
Toxic levels of carbon dioxide: at levels above 5%, concentration CO2 is directly toxic."
Have I made a mistake in my sums?
PS: I picked the A319 at random.
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Does anyone work for Ryanair? Has anyone worked for them? Does anyone actually know the details of this incident?
Speculation is not big or clever. Ryanair published many memos about this type of situation and the dangers of a hot cabin. The situation was much more complex and muddy than these simple mutterings suggest.
There is not a climate of fear either. Some people like Ryanair, some don't. Some moan a lot, others enjoy the job. Just like any other airline or business. Maybe those that never worked there (or even flew a real plane) should hold back a little on their opinions if they don't have first hand experience of it.
Speculation is not big or clever. Ryanair published many memos about this type of situation and the dangers of a hot cabin. The situation was much more complex and muddy than these simple mutterings suggest.
There is not a climate of fear either. Some people like Ryanair, some don't. Some moan a lot, others enjoy the job. Just like any other airline or business. Maybe those that never worked there (or even flew a real plane) should hold back a little on their opinions if they don't have first hand experience of it.
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