Olympic Typhoon tasking request

[Pander216]

Excuse my French, but that is total nonsense. Not a single controller (other than the UK CAA) needs to practice the use of an VDF and the corresponding phraseology. Every other R&D facility in Europe only needs the occasional radio check.

Facilitating another free frequency would also not be impossible. In stead indeed half of west Europe is being bothered with the GA pilot who blocks the emergency frequency for 5 minutes. The risk is that after practice pan number 5 you forget to turn up the volume of the emergency frequency again with bigger consequences.

UK CAA R/T in general is very non standard compared to ICAO, and this is not a complement. I don't understand why they think they know it better that the rest of the world.

[AndoniP]

There is nothing more frustrating than working in the London TMA, which is already overcrowded RT wise, and having a practice pan on the second set.

P.s. the Practice pan of one UK aircraft can be heard in the entire west Europe region when flying at flight level 370 or higher. Nothing is more frustrating (especially in the weekend), than being disturbed by practice pans every 30 minutes on a 4 sector day

ahh diddums... turn your second set down then.

How many GA aircraft can even reach FL370? I suggest that most practice pans will be done at under 5000 feet

I think he's suggesting he's flying at FL370, not the GA aircraft

[A Very Civil Pilot]

Riverrock

Try 'maximum theoretical range' of a transmitter.

Sq root of tx in feet, added to sq root of Rex in feet, gives a nm range.
Practice pan at 3000' can theoretically be heard over 200 miles away at FL 370.

[The Fat Controller]

riverrock83, commercial traffic is regularly asked to participate in practice PANs at Scottish Centre, levels are normally in the range FL80 to FL190.

[Herod]

IIRC, the theoretical radio range is 1.25 (sq root tx ht + sq root rx ht)

[DaveReidUK]

IIRC, the theoretical radio range is 1.25 (sq root tx ht + sq root rx ht)

I think you might need to qualify that by specifying units - which will presumably be different for range and height.