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Old 13th Jul 2012, 08:08
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The aircraft was ill thought out and broke Fokker
That's not true, I don't know how you can make such a conclusion.

Swissair gave the fleet to LX who promptly sold them...says it all.
Sorry, ...says what? Airfrance/KLM are still operating a huge fleet of F100/F70.

I found your judgment a bit too severe, considering that most of the a/c produced are still airworthy and flying...

Anyway I believe we are moving Off Topic since the thread was about the Rekkof thing.
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Old 13th Jul 2012, 08:44
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Just found this site:

Next Generation Aircraft | F120-NG a new aircraft
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Good aircraft for Air France as uncomplicated and handled like a Cessna......
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then there was silly freight compartment - too small as well as the doors - so baggage was either left behind or stuffed into the cabin.
May be at last I know why:
  • On four of my last five sectors AMS-LPI my baggage arrived the following day
  • Each time I was far from alone
  • On the single occasion where my bags arrived, plenty of other folks' bags did not
  • The friendly staff in Linköping were very versed at handling the situation for such a tiny airport!

Each flight was serviced by either a F70 or a F100.
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Old 13th Jul 2012, 13:28
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It's pretty,

So, how about a campaign for the re-instatementt of the RJX program but with twin GTF......low noise, power?, decent cabin, STOL, BRITISH!

Too much to ask?
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Originally Posted by Kittiwake
It's pretty,

So, how about a campaign for the re-instatementt of the RJX program but with twin GTF......low noise, power?, decent cabin, STOL, BRITISH!

Too much to ask?
Hmm. Significantly slower cruise than the competition, narrow cabin at 6 abreast with limited overhead storage, potential need to redesign wing for 2 large engines rather than 4 small ones, manufacturer well and truly out of the civil aircraft market... I fear the answer to your question is "yes."
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Old 14th Jul 2012, 08:04
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The only two types which take their roots from dinosaurs and still on sale are 737 and CRJ, however those were constantly developed and production has never stopped.
Why would you believe Fokker 120 have more chance than 727 Super-27 or 717 or RJX or what-ever-else failed project?
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Why would you believe Fokker 120 have more chance than 727 Super-27 or 717 or RJX or what-ever-else failed project?
The B727 can hardly be called a failed project. 1800 plus airframes produced over 20 years and it probably made Boeing a few dollars as well in that time. Eventually technology and ecomonics are going to result in a decision to stop production on some models but I suspect that many airframers would have been over the moon to have experienced such a failed project!
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I'm talking about 727 Super-27. Original 727 is totally out of context here
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Thanks CargoOne, I will read more carefully next time!
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Old 14th Jul 2012, 16:47
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can we all save a lot of time by reading the SAAB restart thread?

Just substitute Fokker for SAAB throughout...............
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Old 16th Jul 2012, 04:02
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@bp

funny enough i don't remember those things...

SR sold them becasue LX got the Avros (not really better) in order to make MS happy. And I know for absolutely sure it was SR who sold them, as part of the PB strategic plans.

Gimme a F100 over anything Canadian with Jets anytime!

Like in the SAAB discussion: HOW MUCH? Oh, I forgot, that is the question for any airframe in combination with some propelling device...
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'Good aircraft for Air France as uncomplicated and handled like a Cessna......'



I would prefer it handle like a Jet transport
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Old 17th Jul 2012, 07:03
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Looking at the phot of the cockpit on their site, the overhead panel (what you can see of it) looks like the current F100's, but the rest is totaly new. Wonder if thry will be able to keep a comon type rating id they ever build the NG?
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Old 17th Jul 2012, 07:40
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funny seeing a cabin window positioned almost inside the compressor intake
Same on the B717, seats reserved for staff ID pax it seems. Sat in them a few times, not a grand view but actually not that noisey.
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Hunter - not what I was told at the time but you could be right - I was just driving them at the time and found myself sans job...
Doubt if it was to make MS happy - flew with him on his last flight on the 9 before he suddenly lost his medical - nowt to do with the FDR your honor.
LX was used to reduce the SR pilot salary - most successful but their accidents and their equipment cost us lots of pax and was one of the proverbial straws.
But their inflight service into LCY was far superior to SR into lHR - Moritz certainly knew about inflight service - good pilot and skipper.

Back to the Fokker, brakes lousy as well and although I flew with earplugs I still suffer from tinnitus.
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