AA to cut 13,000 jobs
The loss of the Alaska Airlines MD80 in 2000 was a similar event, non-standard (ie down to a lesser budget) procedures, non-standard tools, ad fabricated justification for extending maintenance intervals, all at their main maintenance base in San Francisco.
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JW411 - Continental was using the same procedure.
As far as being concerned about AA getting rid of mechanics? That's laughable - travel to Asia, or C. America, and look at all the US, and other countries, airliners getting overhauled.
CO? Overseas. DL? Overseas. UA? Overseas. SW? Overseas. AA's is just joining the crowd in an attempt to reduce it's maintenance cost.
As far as being concerned about AA getting rid of mechanics? That's laughable - travel to Asia, or C. America, and look at all the US, and other countries, airliners getting overhauled.
CO? Overseas. DL? Overseas. UA? Overseas. SW? Overseas. AA's is just joining the crowd in an attempt to reduce it's maintenance cost.
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Pilot jobs will be next...count in it.
What we need to save this proffesion is a good old fashioned pilot shortage:
Low Supply and High Demand will make airlines compete for good pilots with one compensation package being better than the other.
With my luck the mother of all pilot shortages will start the day I have to retire..
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The fact of the matter is....
Too much capacity, not enough punters.
the rapid growth in air-transport for the masses was based on "pile it high, sell it cheap" as opposed to the previous, cautious growth of new developments, staff and procedures. Then, flying was the preserve of the wealthy,select few.
I'd venture to suggest that well over 50% of current western commercial Pilots would not have fallen into the correct social or financial demographic to consider that carreer-option as anything other than a daydream.
With the current world-wide recession, Joe public is no-longer jetting off for a weekend or annual break , in numbers as seen in the 60's to 80's boom period.
Until the world finds a humungous supply of fuel in a politically stable area or global economic well-being resumes
Or the pool of Commercial Pilots and Aircraft shrinks to fit the level of demand ,
then the future is bleak in all sectors of Aviation.
Too much capacity, not enough punters.
the rapid growth in air-transport for the masses was based on "pile it high, sell it cheap" as opposed to the previous, cautious growth of new developments, staff and procedures. Then, flying was the preserve of the wealthy,select few.
I'd venture to suggest that well over 50% of current western commercial Pilots would not have fallen into the correct social or financial demographic to consider that carreer-option as anything other than a daydream.
With the current world-wide recession, Joe public is no-longer jetting off for a weekend or annual break , in numbers as seen in the 60's to 80's boom period.
Until the world finds a humungous supply of fuel in a politically stable area or global economic well-being resumes
Or the pool of Commercial Pilots and Aircraft shrinks to fit the level of demand ,
then the future is bleak in all sectors of Aviation.
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The loss of the Alaska Airlines MD80 in 2000 was a similar event, non-standard (ie down to a lesser budget) procedures, non-standard tools, ad fabricated justification for extending maintenance intervals, all at their main maintenance base in San Francisco.
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I don't think anybody knows what is going to happen to AA. It looks to me like they wanted to dump their debt as all the other major airlines did so they could compete. They wanted to dump the pilot pensions on the government as all the others did to be competitive. In 2003 we almost went the same route but with the 23% employee pay cut held out til now. All the others dumped the pensions on the government so had a cost advantage so now AA is forced to do the same thing to remain competitive. I hate AA management but how can you compete with all the other major airlines getting government bail out but you? Think about it.
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Your forgetting that the 23% number is only valid for those on seniority based pay. Pilots also have a seat based pay componet. I like many others took a a almost 50% paycut, making the average hit >23%.
Your forgetting that the 23% number is only valid for those on seniority based pay. Pilots also have a seat based pay componet. I like many others took a a almost 50% paycut, making the average hit >23%.
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I don't think anybody knows what is going to happen to AA. It looks to me like they wanted to dump their debt as all the other major airlines did so they could compete. They wanted to dump the pilot pensions on the government as all the others did to be competitive. In 2003 we almost went the same route but with the 23% employee pay cut held out til now. All the others dumped the pensions on the government so had a cost advantage so now AA is forced to do the same thing to remain competitive. I hate AA management but how can you compete with all the other major airlines getting government bail out but you? Think about it.
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Like him or not, Lawrence O'Donnell did a piece on this the other night. At nine+ minutes, it is incredible that a network show did this much depth on the issue of the pension dump, and a nice tie-in to the next election.
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As soon as an airline outsources its engineering to save money, it is time to stop flying with that carrier.
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It was mostly typical MSNBC left-wing bias.
I thought it was the best defense of our profession I've seen on TV in quite a while.
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8486Mechanics/617 AC=13.75 mechanics per a/c.