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SIA 777 off the rwy at EDDM

Old 3rd Nov 2011, 13:48
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A SIA 777-300ER arriving from Manchester slid off the southern RWY at EDDM this noontime. No one hurt and no external a/c damage. a/c still on the grass. Munich ops limited to northern RWY til further notice.

München: Landende Boeing 777 rollt ins Gras - FLUG REVUE
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Any idea if it was on the landing roll or did it went off the runway when vacating the runway?
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Looks like it happened on the landing roll.

Pics: Flughafen: Boeing 777 schießt über Landebahn hinaus - Flughafen - Landkreis Erding - Lokales - merkur-online

Nose points parallel to the center line. It's off to the south of the southern RWY. There are no taxiways at all on that southern side.
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Old 3rd Nov 2011, 14:07
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...slid off the southern RWY...
Did it actually slide, or did it just roll off the runway? The former expression infers a lot more drama than may actually have been the case....
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No drama. Just check the pics above please. However an unusual stand this time.
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In one of those pics, does the OB edge of the RH flap look 100% intact? Or possible damage?

Probably me imagining stuff in a not too clear picture...

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Question

I was expecting only one bogie or perhaps the nose wheels in the grass, but not the complete aircraft standing in the grass meters away from the nearest piece of concrete.

How on earth did they manage to do that?!
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Old 3rd Nov 2011, 15:03
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Old 3rd Nov 2011, 15:03
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MUNCHEN - EDDM - MUC
METAR:

EDDM 031350Z 07007KT CAVOK 08/06 Q1010 NOSIG=
EDDM 031320Z 08010KT 9000 FEW007 BKN230 07/05 Q1009 NOSIG=
EDDM 031250Z 08008KT 7000 SCT007 SCT230 07/06 Q1010 NOSIG=
EDDM 031220Z 09008KT 7000 SCT005 SCT230 05/05 Q1010 NOSIG=
EDDM 031150Z 08007KT 4000 BR OVC004 05/05 Q1010 BECMG 5000
SCT005=
EDDM 031120Z 07010KT 2200 BR OVC003 05/05 Q1010 BECMG 3000
OVC005=
EDDM 031050Z 10008KT 2000 BR FEW002 OVC003 04/04 Q1011 BECMG
3000 OVC005=


On the face of it, the wind is not significant, although a lowish cloudbase and a little bit of mist if noon local (1100Z), but nothing serious. Seems like an odd one.
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Old 3rd Nov 2011, 15:17
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Thank the Lord someone posted a METAR - I was beginning to worry.
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I flew in and out of MUC this morning, and it was CAT II for the approach, CAT I when we took off about 50 mins later. Hardly any wind and the surface was close to dry, no frozen patches anywhere. They must have arrived about an hour after we departed.
I wonder what happened...

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Old 3rd Nov 2011, 15:39
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Some posters on airliners.net are reporting that their relatives were aboard the flight to Munich. The common remark being used is that the landing was on the hard side - whatever that may mean. Read for yourselves, I guess.

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whoops!

As no one was hurt can we have a good laugh and make fun of the crew please?
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Old 3rd Nov 2011, 18:45
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The 777 was towed off the runway about 45 minutes ago. Rwy expected to have been reopened about 15 minutes ago (18:30).

One poster on another forum looked at the flight tracks. He said it looks like they veered left off the runway, then right and then went off on the grass on the right side. Quite strange...

At the time of landing there was CAT II/III. Fog was lifting at the time.
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I recall some years ago following an autoland in very low visibility the aircraft veering quite sharply from left to right. I was quite alarmed at the time and only when the aircraft slowed to taxi speed did I realize what had happened once I heard the autopilot disconnect cavalry charge. The PF was trying to steer the aircraft forgetting that the autopilot was still engaged
I wonder whether this could of happened here...
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One poster on another forum looked at the flight tracks. He said it looks like they veered left off the runway, then right and then went off on the grass on the right side. Quite strange...
That would be the same as reported in the German news on the Mercur article linked above. They report that the aircraft got out of control level with the cargo terminal, went left then back across the runway and 10m into the grass.
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Old 3rd Nov 2011, 21:35
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The PF was trying to steer the aircraft forgetting that the autopilot was still engaged. I wonder whether this could of happened here...
Hmm, I've had that happen but it will try to put you back on the LOC, not the grass (unless you've already vacated and let go of the tiller...).

The photos *are* rather surreal: 200T+ of aircraft sitting on the grass like it was helicoptered in there... Normally, you'd expect the wheels to have disappeared into the ground and see dirty great ploughed tracks leading off the runway. Doesn't seem to be anything like that here; maybe German spec. verges are stronger than they look?
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Old 3rd Nov 2011, 22:00
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@ FullWings: as the river Isar is less than 2km to the west, the airport was built on alluvial land. There is some grass for the looks, but underneath it's pretty much all gravel. That does take a lot of weight...

Strange thing all together, though. It will be interesting to read the report.

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Old 3rd Nov 2011, 23:33
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Anyone knows if LVP were (still) in force?
Automatic rollout around Cat I can be tricky when LOC signals aren't protected (and everybody is doing autolands "to be on the safe side").
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JetPhotos.Net Photo » 9V-SWQ (CN: 34582) Singapore Airlines Boeing 777-312ER by kaese2002 => amazing how the aircraft did not sink in. But we've not had rain here for a few weeks...

The plane was pulled out by two Panther 8x8 fire trucks (!!)
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