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Old 11th Jan 2011, 13:05
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Airasia incident in Malaysia

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An AirAsia A320 skidded off the runway while landing at Malaysia's Kuching International Airport last night, resulting in the closure of the airport as workers try to remove the aircraft.
Anybody anything more about this?
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 14:30
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Kuching Catscity - Airasia crash landing at kuching airport [Forum - News Today]

Nose and wing damage...
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. . .a little more than just a "skid off the pavement" looks like substantial damage with the engines trashed.
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Obviously a warning to airlines to choose their marketing tag-lines carefully.
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 19:57
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. . .a little more than just a "skid off the pavement" looks like substantial damage with the engines trashed.
I doubt that there is much damage. The covers over the engines suggest that they are trying to protect them during the recovery.
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There could be a lot more damage then you can see from these pictures (or even from the outside) to make it a w/o. Even for a pretty young plane.
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in this picture: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2757201_n.jpg

you can see the engine is touching the ground, and it almost looks like its full of mud...

IMHO its either a costly repair job or a w/o...

Airport is now reopen..
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 00:44
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The Borneo Post received a call from Balai Ringin assemblyman Snowdan Lawan, who was on the plane with his wife Melinda Claudia, regarding the incident around 10.30pm.

He said the first thing he grabbed was his iPad as it contained important documents.

SHAKEN BUT WELL: Snowdan speaks to reporters.

“As we were seated in front, my wife and I were among the first to get off the plane. In fact my wife went out after me. I had to save the iPad,” he said.

Snowdan, who is Parti Rakyat Sarawak (PRS) deputy secretary, said he travels regularly and had never had such a bad experience before.
Got his priorities right!
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Snowdan, who is Parti Rakyat Sarawak (PRS) deputy secretary, said he travels regularly and had never had such a bad experience before.
Isn't that always the way? One crash can ruin your whole day and create quite negative perceptions about the airline.
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 02:40
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More rubber on the runway their than a condom manufacturing plant, it was just waiting to happen, maybe now budgets and short cuts will be looked into, but somehow I doubt it! Luck was on their side this time around, next time, maybe not!
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 06:52
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Capn Bloggs: atleast he didn't run to grab his Golf Bag I know somebody when the plane encountered turbulance, had tried to remove his Golf Bag and keep it with him so he can get out with his Golf Bag
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 06:56
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They could have performed a missed approach, it wouldn't have taken einstein to work out that they were in for an interesting landing. The pilots are so inexperienced in this airline they probably wouldn't even know the procedures of a go around. How many hours did this captain have I wonder? Most have less than 1000.

Still awaiting the final report from the two low level approaches on the Gold Coast. Have a chat to the ATC in Melbourne, been too many close calls with this mob.

When you pay your flight attendants more than pilots you should know something is going to happen, eventually.
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They could have performed a missed approach, it wouldn't have taken einstein to work out that they were in for an interesting landing. The pilots are so inexperienced in this airline they probably wouldn't even know the procedures of a go around. How many hours did this captain have I wonder? Most have less than 1000.
With respect 320, A bit unfair on the Captain with the little infomation we have so far on this incident.

Still awaiting the final report from the two low level approaches on the Gold Coast.
Possibly the same should apply for this incident as well...... wait for a report with a bit more credible information.
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 14:01
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I agree with Sunstar320 on this one...

Look at It this way - Air Asia expanded with lightning speed, needing lots of pilots, and quickly. Pilot training in Malaysia (even more so abroad) is too expensive for most of the population, and there are no real flying schools around (Lived there for few years, believe me, I was trying to find them!!) that could train the number of pilots they needed.


So, where did the pilots come from? Some from their own training program (sped up for max output, from scratch), and some were brought from Thailand, Indonesia, India and Philippines. The thread about their licenses is on this forum.

On the other hand, I have had horrendous experiences with their ground staff in KL on few occasions, one where they were letting passengers flog off their extra luggage to other passengers on the flight to carry it from them - and police didn't bat an eyelid. And that's just one of few dodgy incidents with AirA that happened to me personally!!! So if that's their attitude on the ground, attitude in the air can't be much better either....

PS. Never flew them again after that, and never will again.
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 20:34
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Kuching ........learnt to treat it with a great deal of respect , either hot , humid and turbulent , or pouring with rain onto a bumpy disintegrating runway covered in rubber . Where the weather changed from one to the other very fast , magenta always on the radar ...........
Low cost airline , crew always under pressure to maintain schedule , almost always impossible with 20 minute turnrounds ( I kid you not ) so the slightest hold-off causes 'lates' all day , no way to catch up, lots of stupid questions , form filling ad nauseam ,all the ingredients for press-on-itis , very common in SE Asia .
Kuching 2011 , Kinabalu 2004/5 ( 737 )
At least noone hurt , even the iPad .
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On the SEA&FE forum - http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...y-kuching.html

Air Asia seems to have a fairly standard procedure of not using reverse on landing. I have never even witnessed them using idle reverse.

Looks like it finally bit them on the arse.
Use full reverse on a slippery runway with a crosswind and
you're begging for trouble. I see no evidence of reversers
causing the problem unless he actually did "gun the buckets"
and No 1 hung up.

As mentioned earlier could the armchair experts wait until the
evidence is in before exercising your impulsive predilections for
rabidly assigning blame? Speculation is one thing, pointing the
uninformed finger is another.
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iWitness

At least noone hurt , even the iPad .
Could we probably press the iPad for some iWitness report then. It seems to be the crucial figure in this story
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Old 14th Jan 2011, 13:11
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Use full reverse on a slippery runway with a crosswind and
you're begging for trouble.
Of course, as that would put you into Reverse Flight !!!

The point is it doesn't have to be full reverse thrust and that could work quite well.
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ummmm, there was only 4 kts of wind. Lets not get too dramatic here!
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My wife and I flew from SIN to Penang and back recently. I thought the operation was very professional. New aircraft, good briefings and alert cabin crew. (pretty too). On time both ways. Compared to some operators in that part of the world, Air Asia are an airline of choice.
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