CATHAY SACKS PILOT
CATHAY SACKS PILOT
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HONG KONG, April 11 (Reuters) - A senior Cathay Pacific pilot was sacked for throwing nuts at the airline's boss in a bar, a company spokeswoman said on Wednesday.
Captain Scott Munro was dismissed in early April after David Turnbull, chief executive of the Hong Kong airline, accused the pilot of showering him with nuts.
"The (sacking) decision was taken the same afternoon after a disciplinary hearing," the Cathay spokeswoman said.
Munro could not be contacted for immediate comment.
"He was dismissed for throwing things at me. We have to operate a disciplined company and you do not throw things at the chief executive," Turnbull was quoted as saying in the South China Morning Post on Wednesday.
"He's the captain of the ship. It's not what you expect of him...if the cabin crew did that to a passenger, they would be dismissed," Turnbull added.
Captain Scott Munro was dismissed in early April after David Turnbull, chief executive of the Hong Kong airline, accused the pilot of showering him with nuts.
"The (sacking) decision was taken the same afternoon after a disciplinary hearing," the Cathay spokeswoman said.
Munro could not be contacted for immediate comment.
"He was dismissed for throwing things at me. We have to operate a disciplined company and you do not throw things at the chief executive," Turnbull was quoted as saying in the South China Morning Post on Wednesday.
"He's the captain of the ship. It's not what you expect of him...if the cabin crew did that to a passenger, they would be dismissed," Turnbull added.
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I am afraid that this is all too frequent with Hong Kong airlines. It is rare for a pilot to be sacked for any professional reason. It is almost always a political reason - such as the company, or a senior individual in that company, taking a dislike to the pilot concerned. It has happened in Dragonair as well with certain 'A scale' pilots being pushed out for obscure reasons.
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I disagree with CX's CEO.
An extremely petty incident resulted in the loss of this guy's job.
This occured *outside* of both parties' positions of professional capacity (ie. they weren't in the office, they were in a BAR!-an informal setting!) and thus both men's positions in terms of seniority were completely irrelevant.
Outside the office & off the job should have meant they were both equals!
And what incited Scott Munro's actions anyway? That hasn't been reported! Hmmmmmm....
An extremely petty incident resulted in the loss of this guy's job.
This occured *outside* of both parties' positions of professional capacity (ie. they weren't in the office, they were in a BAR!-an informal setting!) and thus both men's positions in terms of seniority were completely irrelevant.
Outside the office & off the job should have meant they were both equals!
And what incited Scott Munro's actions anyway? That hasn't been reported! Hmmmmmm....
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AJ: Couldn't agree more!
I'm not CX, so have stayed out of this until now. Seems like the CX CEO should get a life iso being so stuck up. If he was in a bar having a pi$$ up with the rest of the crew, then whats his problem? If the kitchen's too hot....
BTW, have only been to HKG twice; Crew-rest thru Kai-Tak (followed by a great night out in Joe Banana's & met a good CX crowd) & CLK once in transit.
Yr CX NOMFWIC needs his head looked at.
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I'm not CX, so have stayed out of this until now. Seems like the CX CEO should get a life iso being so stuck up. If he was in a bar having a pi$$ up with the rest of the crew, then whats his problem? If the kitchen's too hot....
BTW, have only been to HKG twice; Crew-rest thru Kai-Tak (followed by a great night out in Joe Banana's & met a good CX crowd) & CLK once in transit.
Yr CX NOMFWIC needs his head looked at.
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In such cases many argue that nomatter where such a behavior occured, it tells a lot about one's poor judgment, a poor judgement that may exhibit itself in much more serious circumstances as well.
> AJ said:
> This occured *outside* of both parties' positions of professional capacity (ie. they weren't in
> the office, they were in a BAR!-an informal setting!) and thus both men's positions in terms
> of seniority were completely irrelevant.
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Well, I can well understand this pilot's anger. His salary has been reduced over the years and now he only makes £150,000. He has to fly as much as 60 or 70 hours in clapped out old new aircraft. He has to live in the hills, sea and sun that make up Hong Kong. Yeah -you're right, I'd go nuts for his job - what a plonker!
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Whilst I don't intend to hijack this post with my replies;
Bourbon,
Conditions are not an issue here; the issue is:
Was this dismissal fair?
What other disciplinary measures could DT have taken, apart from ruining someone's day?
Don't get me wrong, I would never have expected Mr.CX CEO to have sat there laughing after being thrown peanuts by someone who should have perhaps restrained himself.
BUT,
To immediately fire him-and thus make things extremely difficult for this guy career-wise??>>> well, doesn't that smell of an overreaction to you?
As suggested above, an out-of-bar settlement would have perhaps been better for Mr.Munro and CX's reputation-the news sends the wrong signals to prospective CX aircrew!!
AJ
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Bourbon,
Conditions are not an issue here; the issue is:
Was this dismissal fair?
What other disciplinary measures could DT have taken, apart from ruining someone's day?
Don't get me wrong, I would never have expected Mr.CX CEO to have sat there laughing after being thrown peanuts by someone who should have perhaps restrained himself.
BUT,
To immediately fire him-and thus make things extremely difficult for this guy career-wise??>>> well, doesn't that smell of an overreaction to you?
As suggested above, an out-of-bar settlement would have perhaps been better for Mr.Munro and CX's reputation-the news sends the wrong signals to prospective CX aircrew!!
AJ
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Good Morning Buenos Aires
bourbon, you must work for Cx's PR agency, you make salaries and bases up so well. Never mind, I don't expect you allow facts (such as wx or notams) to interfere with your opinions!
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I understand that the CEO commented "If a Flight Attendant had thrown something at a Passenger, they would have been fired.."
I can understand that, as the Passenger is a fare paying customer. However, the CEO is in many ways, just along for a free ride!
Now were the peanuts, dry roasted, honey roasted or just plain?
Cheers, OffshoreIgor
I can understand that, as the Passenger is a fare paying customer. However, the CEO is in many ways, just along for a free ride!
Now were the peanuts, dry roasted, honey roasted or just plain?
Cheers, OffshoreIgor