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Yemeni Aircraft Bomb Plot Foiled

Old 29th Oct 2010, 20:07
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I suppose I shouldn't mention what's happening next Tuesday then ?
October Surprise !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Funny that was first thought and second was statement by Walsh of BA yesterday.
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Old 29th Oct 2010, 20:20
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It was with shaking hands and a sweaty brow that I examined my printer after receiving the distressing news today. Imagine my terror when I discovered not one but FIVE printer cartridges all with wires AND a circuit board attached to them.

I have now locked myself in the basement awaiting the arrival of the bomb squad.

I am scared I tell ya, scared!
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Old 29th Oct 2010, 20:27
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US Presidents brief was interesting ! - wasn't expecting that - seems initial info was wrong.
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Old 29th Oct 2010, 20:40
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The close-up of the circuit board photo doing the rounds looks suspiciously like a mobile phone circuit to my eyes. You can even see what looks like the 'phone's camera on the top right.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/US/...go.update2.jpg
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Old 29th Oct 2010, 21:11
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Obama: Terror explosives found, bound for US

AP reports:

Obama: Terror explosives found, bound for US

Eileen Sullivan And Matt Apuzzo, Associated Press WASHINGTON President Barack Obama declared Friday that authorities had uncovered a "credible terrorist threat" against the United States following the overseas discovery of U.S.-bound packages containing explosives aboard cargo jets. Obama said both had been addressed to Jewish organizations in the Chicago area.

The disclosures triggered a worldwide alert amid fears that al-Qaida was attempting to carry out fresh terror attacks.

The events "underscore the necessity of remaining vigilant against terrorism," the president said. The packages both originated in Yemen, but Obama did not explicitly assign blame to al-Qaida, which is active in the Arab nation and long has made clear its goal of attacking the United States.

The events unfolded four days before national elections in which discussion of terrorism has played almost no role.

Obama stepped to the podium in the hours after officials disclosed that authorities in Dubai intercepted an explosive device bound for a Chicago-area Jewish institution. The second package was aboard a plane searched in England, and officials said it contained a printer toner cartridge with wires and powder.

That second package was aboard a plane in East Midlands, north of London.
Obama did not identify any institution that had been targeted.

Several other cargo planes at airports along the Eastern Seaboard of the United States also were searched, and officials said no explosives were found. An Emirates Airlines passenger jet carrying cargo from Yemen was escorted from the Canadian border to New York City by two military fighter jets, U.S. officials said. They said it was a precautionary action.

An FBI spokesman in Chicago, Ross Rice, said both suspicious packages had been sent from the same address in Yemen.

The president refrained from assigning blame to Yemen's al-Qaida branch, but officials who spoke on condition of anonymity said they were increasingly certain that was the source. The same group was responsible for the attempted bombing of a U.S.-bound airliner last Christmas.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the ongoing investigation.
White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan later told reporters that the explosives "were in a form that was designed to try to carry out some type of attack," but he provided no further details.

"The forensic analysis is under way," he said, adding, "Clearly from the initial observation, the initial analysis that was done, the materials that were found in the device that was uncovered was intended to do harm."
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Old 29th Oct 2010, 21:35
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"There appears to be some confusion ...
as to whether anything exists outside of the USA ...

YouTube - U.S. Shocked Andorra Not In Africa"

Teddy Robinson, are you utterly unaware that the on-line news site The Onion and its YouTube adjunct Onion News Network are totally satirical humor media??? IT'S A JOKE. That you apparently didn't get.
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Old 29th Oct 2010, 22:04
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Bomb Found on UPS Plane in London, Other Jets Searched in Newark, Philadelphia | NYCAviation.com | Airplane Photos, Airline News, Planespotting Guides
which becomes a whole different story if you note that the quote is now "Possible bomb ...."
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Old 29th Oct 2010, 22:13
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Cool

Hi,

Will end up as non event .. but good for make grow fear in the public and justify a up (one more time) of the security checks at airports......
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Old 29th Oct 2010, 22:36
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Yay! More excuse to practice my grab-ankles-and-say-please move...

I suppose I shouldn't mention what's happening next Tuesday then ?
'Tis usually the tea-sipping elephant that benefits from scaring the sensitive voters, not the donkey, and from the look of polls, the elephant needs no help this year.
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Old 29th Oct 2010, 23:22
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There seems to be some confusion in the US Media about whether EMA is in Birmingham or London
Both wrong - try again.
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 00:57
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Both wrong - try again.
Yes, that was my point.
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 01:42
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I can confirm (at the moment) that one of the mentioned a/c in EMA was one of our Star Air B767 coming from CGN to EMA scheduled to continue to EDI. I guess we often have load for the UPS Philadelphia Flight standing next to us. a/c was evacuated, searched and grounded the whole day.

I heard even more but cannot confirm these information yet.
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 03:40
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Stepwilk ..

thank you for pointing that out
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 05:03
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An FBI spokesman in Chicago, Ross Rice, said both suspicious packages had been sent from the same address in Yemen
Yes, those terrorists are so stupid, that they send those parcels from Yemen to the land of the free....

White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan later told reporters that the explosives "were in a form that was designed to try to carry out some type of attack," but he provided no further details.
Good job, Mr. Brennan, well done

When are the national elections

Watch "Wag the Dog" with Robert de Niro......

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Old 30th Oct 2010, 05:18
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I don't mean this to sound like yet another 'conspiracy theory'... but.....

given the crash in Dubai, and the subsequent discussion re: screening of cargo/parcels/freight, and the fact that (from what I read) these threats seem to have been targeted at UPS... discussions here about lack of safety precautions and provisions for freighters, value of airline lives vs cargo.. etc etc etc

could this be 'someone's' (an interested party, whether an indiviual or other) way of drawing attention to the gaps in 'security' in this section of aviation??

I.e. not a 'real' threat as in intended to cause any crashes, BUT- looks real enough to make people sit up and take notice?

Makes me wonder.... (ok you might think I'm crazy but this is the thought that crossed my mind when I first heard of this)
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 05:50
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you cant throw away a boomerang

"From the very beginning, there has been speculation that the attacks were carried out by a biodefense zealot who wanted to prove that bioterrorism was a serious problem," says Epstein
If you want to sell mousetraps breed mice


(Info on the plot was revealed by our Middle East Ally, Saudi Arabia - ensuring that plot only caused fear, not damage)
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 06:29
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For the benefit of those in the US, EMA is about 120 miles north of London.
For the benefit of everyone who doesn't know where EMA is - remember Kegworth? A tiny village 129 miles north of London!
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 07:19
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EMA is at the Centre of the Universe, well that was my theory and it certainly is now. So the package goes Yemen - Dubai on a feeder, DXB-CGN on a UPS 747 (linking perhaps to the recent crash that didnt even make the front pages), CGN-EMA on another aircraft (Star 767 or UPS 767) to link with a EMA-PHL UPS flight that normally departs around 0400.
Personally i'm more concerned about the 747 crash, obviously for the loss of life, now a little bit more on what set off the onboard fire.
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 07:19
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I suppose those suspicious 'packages' got through any so called ' security ' checks or protocols for cargo aircraft, just like the " Shoe Bomber " and the Pyrotechnic Underpant Nutter ?

Shall I say it again ? Repeat after me..........

The Bad Guys Will Do Whatever They Want Whenever They Want To
The Bad Guys Will Do Whatever They Want Whenever They Want To

etc ........

So why do we, and in particular operating crew, put up with all the about at airports ?

Total waste of time.
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 09:30
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What confuses me is that why an item which was discovered, removed and examined in the UK and reported as being "sinister looking but harmless" turns out to be an explosive device, when Obama starts his little spout.

Are we looking at limited release of information by UK authorities for operational reasons, or something else entirely !!

It all plays directly into the hands of those who detect an odd smell here !
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