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Old 16th Jun 2010, 04:59
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Flight attendant helps land plane at O'Hare

An unidentified San Francisco-based American Airlines flight attendant abandoned her beverage cart and put on a radio headset, replacing the ill first officer in the right seat of the 767 jumbo jet's flight deck to help the captain during the landing. The flight landed without incident, and passengers were never aware anything was different.

Flight attendant helps land plane at O'Hare - chicagotribune.com
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The CC also happened to have a CPL...
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Next...she'll want a pilot seniority number
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Funny how the Airline are quick to grab the credit for employing such resourceful staff, even they didn't give her a job as a FO!
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Wouldn`t she need an ATPL for that? Does AA offer ab initio training?
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767 jumbo jet


What's one of those???
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jumbo jet--

any aircraft that has more than 6 seats that doesn't sound like a harley!

did you sit by the window during your commercial training? Ha!
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767 jumbo jet


What's one of those???
The original definition of a "jumbo jet" was any of the widebody (twin-isle) jets built in the late 60s & 70s. i.e. DC-10, L1011, 767 & (of course) the 747.

As the biggest (well, until the A380), the 747 eventually appropriated sole use of the name.
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Wouldn`t she need an ATPL for that? Does AA offer ab initio training?
No. I don't have an ATPL, yet. But I know what you mean I am just a pedant today.

Good on the FA, hope they find use for their CPL again sometime if that's what they want (obviously not in the same circumstances).

More to the point, I often think the brief introduction to radio operation etc. would be useful as part of the CC training. I know calling the ground is the last of your worries if the proverbial has hit the fan to the extent that nobody else has the ability to use the Radio but, fighting chance and all that.
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Dorris Day would be proud of her!
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well done...few people know that Doris Day, in the film "Julie" , had to land a DC4 at KSFO.
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Well if BA expect their pilots to start throwing sandwiches why shouldn't an FA land a plane?
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"One pilot is fully capable of flying a Boeing 767. In fact, the sophisticated plane, equipped with an array of computers, can fly and land by itself."

Really? I'll have to tell my brother he'd best start looking for a new job then....

Do they read the stuff before they print it? Do editors still exist?
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Well done to the c/crew.
Octane - what do you see as wrong in that quote for the masses?
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of course they read it...problem is that they're completely uninformed and are, as usual, making guesses based on the usual misconceptions that people have about flying.

well done to the two of them though! and as if by magic, a perfect example of the risks of this sort of thing:

Embraer reveals vision for single-pilot airliners
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Octane - what do you see as wrong in that quote for the masses?
... because it's not an autonomous system? The quote would imply that it is possible for the aircraft to be instructed to land with an empty cockpit. An auto-land capable autopilot only does 30% of the job. Someone still needs to program it, and put the wheels down, and put the flaps down, and control the speed, and ....
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Checkboard: While you're absolutely correct in what you say, conceptually all of that could be done remotely, as with RPVs or, for that matter, with unmanned spacecraft. I'd prefer to know there was a warm, breathing and qualified body at the pointy end in case of a tango uniform situation, but the beancounters are probably keeping an eye on things . . .
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Hmm! I see several sets of knickers reaching red-line temps here

a) Written for the masses
b) Certainly the 737 can 'fly and land itself'
c) Standard teaching (where I come from anyway) is for single-pilot ops to 'let the a/c land itself'
d) Nowhere did it actually say you don't need any pilots
e) "The quote would imply that it is possible for the aircraft to be instructed to land with an empty cockpit." - I think you made that bit up?
f) Any 'masses' on here think that way?

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Flight attendant turned co-pilot: 'I don't feel like a hero'

June 16, 2010 6:54 AM | 7 Comments | UPDATED STORY

Patti DeLuna hadn't piloted a plane in about 20 years until this week.
Back then, it was a small Cessna. On Monday, she quickly stepped up to a Boeing 767 airliner.
DeLuna, 61, an American Airlines flight attendant, helped her captain land the jumbo jet at O'Hare International Airport after the flight's first officer fell ill with stomach flu.
"I was the best available (back-up pilot) they had on the plane,'' DeLuna said Tuesday from her California home. "I spent a lot of time in the cockpit looking at the flight deck panel and asking questions. My first question to the captain was, 'Where are the brakes?' ''

Get the full story: Flight attendant turned co-pilot: 'I don't feel like a hero'.
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I'm going to keep up my Flight Sim skills - you never know when they might be needed

Will be even more important when flying single pilot Embraers!
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