Close call- A319 vs. B747

[400drvr]

1/2 mile no problem for the pro's?

A half mile happens pretty fast in the big iron. lets see TOGA...Flaps 20...Gear up and then throw in a TCAS RA at night. Yep that half mile goes by real fast!

[DownIn3Green]

400hundred...

Understand your post, however...my point is FLY THE JET!!!

Screw TOGA...when it hits the fan, that's what YOU'RE there for...Are you flying the A/C or is it flying YOU???

IMHO that's the problem with our new generation of pilots...

Us old guys know to FLY THE JET when things get "iffy"...

Sorry if that offends you...

[Fatfish]

So, DownIn3Geen, you agree then with the 'new pilots', 'Keep Visual' under those condtions is not a good idea and is an accident waiting to happen.

[DownIn3Green]

Fat...

You're an accident waiting to happen...but then you'll probably never ave a command...

I agree that the "New Piolts" rely way too much on technology rather than flying skills, which they don't have...

[Basil]

If carrying out an IFR approach and go-around, if you have to be told 'maintain visual separation' there's been a c0ck-up.
Had to once break in on a PAR to say just that. Reason? There was an ongoing cock-up in the circuit.

NB: for the non professionals: there is a difference between IFR and IMC.

[Fatfish]

Tch! Tch! DownIn3 Green. Getting personal arent we? Cant stand a little debate? And you're so **** hot that you would screw TOGA. Well that says alot.

[ATC Watcher]

would it have killed the atc to just have the Cargolux 747 wait on the runway while the A319 was landing? I've always wondered about the dangers of crossing runways when aircraft go around

The dangers exists and have been, according the FAA " mitigated " . Therefore you have more niceties in the US , like allowing Land and Hold Short procedures on intersecting runways .( US ALPA is supporting this , even against IFALPA recommendation btw)
The argument in there is expedition ( i.e landing/departing more aircraft per airport at any given time ) and unfortunately not safety first.

As to the argument old versus kid pilots, I 've seen so many incidents now where kids were trying to fix or please the computers instead of manning the shop that I tend to agree wholehearthly with 3 green in there ....

[kick the tires]

3 Greens - "estimated 100'", but almost 1/2 mile laterally...no big deal for professional pilots...

Perhaps you'd better leave us professional pilots to decide whether we can judge such distances, closure rates, wake prediction and spacial awareness such that we dont endanger our passengers and aircraft and go and live to fly another day!

Oh, I should of added night to that list, but nah, after all, its no big deal!!!!!!!!