Landing when the airport is closed
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Galaxy flyer
Grand Turk, Providenciales and Puerta Plata.
Approach bans refer to RVR minima and are not an option. If the weather is below the minima in certain jurisdictions you cannot commence an approach (go below 1000ft above DH). There is a difference between an airfield being closed because there is insufficient staff to give an ATC service and being closed for safety reasons.
In any case these guys managed to line up nearly all the swiss cheeses (as described by James Reason).
Approach bans refer to RVR minima and are not an option. If the weather is below the minima in certain jurisdictions you cannot commence an approach (go below 1000ft above DH). There is a difference between an airfield being closed because there is insufficient staff to give an ATC service and being closed for safety reasons.
In any case these guys managed to line up nearly all the swiss cheeses (as described by James Reason).
ExBy Man
I'm glad to see that I am not the only one who thinks landing at a airfield that is closed in the middle of a storm might be just a tad unwise.
As I mentioned before the whole conversation I overheard was unlike anything I have ever heard. You have confirmed my suspicions that they put themselves into a very dangerous situation.
The forecast was so bad that we had already discounted BDA as an enroute diversion. The only reason that we found out that the aeroplane was an AN12 was because a Lufthansa pilot asked the NY controller. He was most likely listening in disbelief as we were.
I'm glad to see that I am not the only one who thinks landing at a airfield that is closed in the middle of a storm might be just a tad unwise.
As I mentioned before the whole conversation I overheard was unlike anything I have ever heard. You have confirmed my suspicions that they put themselves into a very dangerous situation.
The forecast was so bad that we had already discounted BDA as an enroute diversion. The only reason that we found out that the aeroplane was an AN12 was because a Lufthansa pilot asked the NY controller. He was most likely listening in disbelief as we were.