Delta Flight From Rio Lands On Taxiway
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"By the way... can everyone say Localizer and Glide Slope... oh and Magenta line?"
Sounds like this was a sidestep from 27L. 27R ILS usually isn't up. If they got the sidestep at the marker, probably not time to reload the FMS... or maybe one of them was trying.
Sounds like this was a sidestep from 27L. 27R ILS usually isn't up. If they got the sidestep at the marker, probably not time to reload the FMS... or maybe one of them was trying.
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arriving on a taxiway....
reminds me of an incident at Austin Executive; a Mooney had engine failure high enough to turn back, only to find the single runway now occupied by a helicopter doing pressups, so he sensibly crashed onto the taxiway, (forgot in all the excitement to put his wheels down). Turns out the helicopter was occupied by somebody from the FAA checking out the heli pilot, he presented himself to the fortunately uninjured couple in the Mooney (I'm from the FAA and I'm here to ......give you a ticket for landing on the taxiway). No kidding.
The unkindest cut of all, word had it, was that the young lady in the right seat of the Mooney was not the wife of the pilot.......
The unkindest cut of all, word had it, was that the young lady in the right seat of the Mooney was not the wife of the pilot.......
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Ryanair, March 2006
IT WAS Ryanair that pioneered the art of flying passengers to sometimes far-flung airfields and telling them that they had arrived in one of Europe’s loveliest cities.
So it should have come as no surprise yesterday to travellers on board Flight 9884 from Liverpool to City of Derry when they landed not in the Maiden City but Ballykelly Camp instead — an army airfield five miles away.
Ryanair passengers are also accustomed to not having an air-bridge to get them inside the terminal, but in this case they didn’t even have any steps to get them off the jet. Luckily, the flight’s original destination was close enough for ground-staff to bring the steps by road to the army base
So it should have come as no surprise yesterday to travellers on board Flight 9884 from Liverpool to City of Derry when they landed not in the Maiden City but Ballykelly Camp instead — an army airfield five miles away.
Ryanair passengers are also accustomed to not having an air-bridge to get them inside the terminal, but in this case they didn’t even have any steps to get them off the jet. Luckily, the flight’s original destination was close enough for ground-staff to bring the steps by road to the army base
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle699176.ece
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GCAP says...
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Typically,at ATL, approaches are flown to the outside runways and departures from the inside. If given a side-step to 27R, radios are unlikely tuned and the final approach flown visually. This is much easier to do than we would like to believe. More so after flying all night.
There but for the grace of God...........
Yeah I agree... perhaps for a simulator pilot who is color blind, or perhaps a Tyro.
I have to say, after 34 years of flying combination of long haul, and all night flying, I still find it hard to land on a taxiway...
By the way... can everyone say Localizer and Glide Slope... oh and Magenta line?
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Well...after 43 years..30,000 hours, although I find it HARD to land on a taxi-way, I can see how it can happen...
If it was a sidestep, there was no loc, gs, or magenta line
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Typically,at ATL, approaches are flown to the outside runways and departures from the inside. If given a side-step to 27R, radios are unlikely tuned and the final approach flown visually. This is much easier to do than we would like to believe. More so after flying all night.
There but for the grace of God...........
Yeah I agree... perhaps for a simulator pilot who is color blind, or perhaps a Tyro.
I have to say, after 34 years of flying combination of long haul, and all night flying, I still find it hard to land on a taxiway...
By the way... can everyone say Localizer and Glide Slope... oh and Magenta line?
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Well...after 43 years..30,000 hours, although I find it HARD to land on a taxi-way, I can see how it can happen...
If it was a sidestep, there was no loc, gs, or magenta line
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Also, redeyes into ATL often use the inner runways for landing simply because there are virtually no flights departing before 0730.
Happened at Gatwick a few times, with operaters who weren't total muppets.
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I assume when the guy who is quoted as saying the taxiway to the north of runway no. 27 that he is referring to north of 27R as that is the runway to which I am lead to believe the flight was cleared to land...
If this is the case... am i right in thinking it was taxiway M that was used of the landing ??
I couldn't locate a video of a landing to 27R... but here is a night landing from KATL on 26R
YouTube - Midwest Airlines Boeing 717 Cockpit View of an ILS Approach, KATL
I can only assume 27R has a different lighting format to 26R as it seems pretty clear where the runway is in this vid!!
Any pilots flying around that part of the world can inform us what the 27R approach is like in comparison?
If this is the case... am i right in thinking it was taxiway M that was used of the landing ??
I couldn't locate a video of a landing to 27R... but here is a night landing from KATL on 26R
YouTube - Midwest Airlines Boeing 717 Cockpit View of an ILS Approach, KATL
I can only assume 27R has a different lighting format to 26R as it seems pretty clear where the runway is in this vid!!
Any pilots flying around that part of the world can inform us what the 27R approach is like in comparison?
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Am I confused - was there not a similar incident somewhere else in the good ol' US within the last year on PPRune?
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I've heard through the grapevine that 27R lights were out or dim compared to taxiway lights and no ILS up....medical emergency as well...no excuses, just waiting for more details and how to avoid similar pitfalls.
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From Galaxy Flyer:
As I recall the gouge was "We're Delta Pilots and we never make the same mistake three times."
from a rEAL pilot
At Eastern, we used remind the DL boys about landing at the right airport after several flights arrived at the wrong airport; say FLL instead of MIA, or McDill AFB instead of TPA; there were others. So, at least, they're at ATL.
As I recall the gouge was "We're Delta Pilots and we never make the same mistake three times."
from a rEAL pilot
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This from the NTSB
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A check airman was on the flight deck along with the captain
and first officer. During cruise flight, the check airman
became ill and was relocated to the cabin for the remainder
of the flight. A medical emergency was declared and the
company was notified by the crew. A determination was made
to land at the scheduled destination of ATL.
The flight was cleared to land on runway 27R but instead
landed on taxiway M, which is situated immediately to the
north and parallel to runway 27R. The runway lights for 27R
were illuminated; the localizer and approach lights for 27R
were not turned on. Taxiway M was active but was clear of
aircraft and ground vehicles at the time the aircraft
landed. The wind was calm with 10 miles visibility.
Night/dark conditions prevailed; twilight conditions began
at about 7:20 a.m. EDT and the official sunrise was at 7:46
a.m. EDT. Unquote
quote
A check airman was on the flight deck along with the captain
and first officer. During cruise flight, the check airman
became ill and was relocated to the cabin for the remainder
of the flight. A medical emergency was declared and the
company was notified by the crew. A determination was made
to land at the scheduled destination of ATL.
The flight was cleared to land on runway 27R but instead
landed on taxiway M, which is situated immediately to the
north and parallel to runway 27R. The runway lights for 27R
were illuminated; the localizer and approach lights for 27R
were not turned on. Taxiway M was active but was clear of
aircraft and ground vehicles at the time the aircraft
landed. The wind was calm with 10 miles visibility.
Night/dark conditions prevailed; twilight conditions began
at about 7:20 a.m. EDT and the official sunrise was at 7:46
a.m. EDT. Unquote