Job losses at Air 2000
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Information this evening would suggest that 28 pilot redundancies are sought, with BALPA negotiating to reduce this figure.
Company are also seeking to reduce winter costs by other means but will be working with BALPA to find appropriate ways.
Next meeting between the two next wednesday.
[ 05 October 2001: Message edited by: Ella ]
Company are also seeking to reduce winter costs by other means but will be working with BALPA to find appropriate ways.
Next meeting between the two next wednesday.
[ 05 October 2001: Message edited by: Ella ]
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It looks at the moment that the Air 2000 core fleet could be reduced by 2 aircraft hence the possible loss of 28 pilot jobs . But at present it is not known if there will be any redundancies depending on the number of pilots who want to job share etc.The last time Air 2000 laid off 6 pilots Voluntarily they recuited over 40 3 months later.
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First Choice are laying off 1100 right across the group. 600 in the UK. They're getting rid of 4 aircraft + 2 already planned. All areas will be affected. However, they're trying to minimulize flt deck losses as an upturn is expected next summer. They may bring up pay cuts as an alternative to job losses 
[ 06 October 2001: Message edited by: Desk Driver ]
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DD,
Having had the press-release clarified, Air 2000 are losing 2 aircraft, over-and-above the 4 leased aircraft that were leaving the fleet at the end of the Summer anyway.
As I understand it the 4 are the Lotus A320, 2 BMI A321s and the B767 that had it's lease extended over the Summer.
The 2 remaining losses will most likely be a couple of the older 757s
Having had the press-release clarified, Air 2000 are losing 2 aircraft, over-and-above the 4 leased aircraft that were leaving the fleet at the end of the Summer anyway.
As I understand it the 4 are the Lotus A320, 2 BMI A321s and the B767 that had it's lease extended over the Summer.
The 2 remaining losses will most likely be a couple of the older 757s
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Latest from BALPA is that 2700 to be laid off in total, with 45-50 pilots to go. If true then someone has been very economical with the truth in their press release 
Still, what else would you expect 
edit for typos.
[ 06 October 2001: Message edited by: FLEX42 ]
Still, what else would you expect edit for typos.
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FLEX42, I have no idea where you get those numbers from, where exactly did you get that figure from? You say its from BALPA but its just not true.
6 aircraft are going, 4 are the leased ones that are not crewed (flight deck) by Air 2000 pilots anyway. 2 B757s were due to go back and 2 Airbuses were due to arrive to replace them. The arrival of these aircraft will be some time next year, after Xmas no
doubt.
As Air 2000 crew at around 7 crews per aircraft, that would make it 28 pilots. That is purely an assumed figure, based on the fleet announcement.
It may well be less than that number as there are other options available.
There are also another 11 pilots who were due to start but will not now be offered contracts.
Air 2000, and First Choice, are in an excellent and strong position and have been for some time.
In the last few days all staff have received long and detailed letters from the BALPA CC, the Chief Executive and Managers. None of which state the figures that FLEX42 has made up. 1100 redundancies have been announced, across the company, both UK and abroad.
2 aircraft (plus the 4 non-Air 2000 ones) to go.
Why do people make these stories up?
6 aircraft are going, 4 are the leased ones that are not crewed (flight deck) by Air 2000 pilots anyway. 2 B757s were due to go back and 2 Airbuses were due to arrive to replace them. The arrival of these aircraft will be some time next year, after Xmas no
doubt.
As Air 2000 crew at around 7 crews per aircraft, that would make it 28 pilots. That is purely an assumed figure, based on the fleet announcement.
It may well be less than that number as there are other options available.
There are also another 11 pilots who were due to start but will not now be offered contracts.
Air 2000, and First Choice, are in an excellent and strong position and have been for some time.
In the last few days all staff have received long and detailed letters from the BALPA CC, the Chief Executive and Managers. None of which state the figures that FLEX42 has made up. 1100 redundancies have been announced, across the company, both UK and abroad.
2 aircraft (plus the 4 non-Air 2000 ones) to go.
Why do people make these stories up?
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From air2000.com
Suspension of Recruitment Programme
Following the recent terrorist attacks in the United States, many companies associated with aviation have announced measures to reduce the immediate and secondary effects of these attacks on their businesses.
The Air 2000 Board has made similar decisions and their first measure has been to suspend our recruitment programme. We will not be accepting CVs or application forms until further notice. However, application forms already submitted will remain on file for the next six months.
Information regarding future recruitment campaigns will be posted on this page as it becomes available.
As a result of recent events, we regret to announce that the we will not be running the Air 2000 pilot sponsorship scheme for courses commencing in March 2002. This is a change to advertisements which currently appear in the press.
[ 08 October 2001: Message edited by: Downwind_Left ]
Suspension of Recruitment Programme
Following the recent terrorist attacks in the United States, many companies associated with aviation have announced measures to reduce the immediate and secondary effects of these attacks on their businesses.
The Air 2000 Board has made similar decisions and their first measure has been to suspend our recruitment programme. We will not be accepting CVs or application forms until further notice. However, application forms already submitted will remain on file for the next six months.
Information regarding future recruitment campaigns will be posted on this page as it becomes available.
As a result of recent events, we regret to announce that the we will not be running the Air 2000 pilot sponsorship scheme for courses commencing in March 2002. This is a change to advertisements which currently appear in the press.
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The guys who had their collective sights on an airline career on the flight deck had better consider another profession....the future does NOT look good for many.
Those that STILL have jobs had better think twice before they rock the boat.
Them's are the facts....no sugar coating.
Those that STILL have jobs had better think twice before they rock the boat.
Them's are the facts....no sugar coating.
Ed...Don't even rise to this guy.
411A is a lurker 'par excellance' that has nothing better to do than poke his nose into forums that he knows nothing about, has no experience of and finds pleasure in raising the stakes in.
He's a parasite. Just ignore him
411A is a lurker 'par excellance' that has nothing better to do than poke his nose into forums that he knows nothing about, has no experience of and finds pleasure in raising the stakes in.
He's a parasite. Just ignore him
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411A,
Are you related to our dear Guv by chance?
Guv has made a complete fool of himself in the time that he has posted on this forum. I've looked at your posts for a year or so and you seem to be following exactly the same path.
I used to get annoyed by our Guv but now I just skip through his postings unless he has provided a 'link' to something 'intelligent'. His opinions are generally worthless, but occasionally his links can be useful.
Now 411A all you seem to do is post your opinions. Could you please try as hard as the 'Guv' to post some 'links' around here.
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Exeng
Are you related to our dear Guv by chance?
Guv has made a complete fool of himself in the time that he has posted on this forum. I've looked at your posts for a year or so and you seem to be following exactly the same path.
I used to get annoyed by our Guv but now I just skip through his postings unless he has provided a 'link' to something 'intelligent'. His opinions are generally worthless, but occasionally his links can be useful.
Now 411A all you seem to do is post your opinions. Could you please try as hard as the 'Guv' to post some 'links' around here.
Regards
Exeng