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gary parkinson 5th Oct 2001 21:51

Job losses at Air 2000
 
Has anyone got any information about the job losses at First Choice. Will these losses include Manchester based Cabin Crew and Pilots?

Ella 6th Oct 2001 01:19

Information this evening would suggest that 28 pilot redundancies are sought, with BALPA negotiating to reduce this figure.

Company are also seeking to reduce winter costs by other means but will be working with BALPA to find appropriate ways.

Next meeting between the two next wednesday.

[ 05 October 2001: Message edited by: Ella ]

poohbear 6th Oct 2001 01:59

It looks at the moment that the Air 2000 core fleet could be reduced by 2 aircraft hence the possible loss of 28 pilot jobs . But at present it is not known if there will be any redundancies depending on the number of pilots who want to job share etc.The last time Air 2000 laid off 6 pilots Voluntarily they recuited over 40 3 months later.

Desk Driver 6th Oct 2001 20:56

First Choice are laying off 1100 right across the group. 600 in the UK. They're getting rid of 4 aircraft + 2 already planned. All areas will be affected. However, they're trying to minimulize flt deck losses as an upturn is expected next summer. They may bring up pay cuts as an alternative to job losses :(

[ 06 October 2001: Message edited by: Desk Driver ]

SFly 6th Oct 2001 23:09

Any idea which aircraft are to go among those 6?

Downwind_Left 6th Oct 2001 23:56

DD,
Having had the press-release clarified, Air 2000 are losing 2 aircraft, over-and-above the 4 leased aircraft that were leaving the fleet at the end of the Summer anyway.

As I understand it the 4 are the Lotus A320, 2 BMI A321s and the B767 that had it's lease extended over the Summer.
The 2 remaining losses will most likely be a couple of the older 757s

FLEX42 7th Oct 2001 00:16

Latest from BALPA is that 2700 to be laid off in total, with 45-50 pilots to go. If true then someone has been very economical with the truth in their press release :rolleyes: Still, what else would you expect :mad:

edit for typos.

[ 06 October 2001: Message edited by: FLEX42 ]

SFly 7th Oct 2001 00:24

anybody know what the reg is on the 767 "that had its lease extended"?

Mr Benn 8th Oct 2001 02:22

FLEX42, I have no idea where you get those numbers from, where exactly did you get that figure from? You say its from BALPA but its just not true.
6 aircraft are going, 4 are the leased ones that are not crewed (flight deck) by Air 2000 pilots anyway. 2 B757s were due to go back and 2 Airbuses were due to arrive to replace them. The arrival of these aircraft will be some time next year, after Xmas no
doubt.
As Air 2000 crew at around 7 crews per aircraft, that would make it 28 pilots. That is purely an assumed figure, based on the fleet announcement.
It may well be less than that number as there are other options available.
There are also another 11 pilots who were due to start but will not now be offered contracts.
Air 2000, and First Choice, are in an excellent and strong position and have been for some time.
In the last few days all staff have received long and detailed letters from the BALPA CC, the Chief Executive and Managers. None of which state the figures that FLEX42 has made up. 1100 redundancies have been announced, across the company, both UK and abroad.
2 aircraft (plus the 4 non-Air 2000 ones) to go.
Why do people make these stories up?

gary parkinson 8th Oct 2001 19:53

which bases will lose the aircraft that are going? :confused:

mintfavour 9th Oct 2001 02:10

You all talk about job losses in Air 2000...so why are they advertising pilot sponsorship in the Flight international mag at the moment???

HiSpeedTape 9th Oct 2001 02:19

Heard a rumour about 4 engineers at NCL and possibly some cabin staff. Don't know how true it is though.

Balboy 9th Oct 2001 02:19

Does anybody know if Air2000 are still to lease a 767 to Britannia this winter. A sched has already been planned for it at Brits.

Downwind_Left 9th Oct 2001 02:21

From air2000.com

Suspension of Recruitment Programme
Following the recent terrorist attacks in the United States, many companies associated with aviation have announced measures to reduce the immediate and secondary effects of these attacks on their businesses.

The Air 2000 Board has made similar decisions and their first measure has been to suspend our recruitment programme. We will not be accepting CVs or application forms until further notice. However, application forms already submitted will remain on file for the next six months.

Information regarding future recruitment campaigns will be posted on this page as it becomes available.

As a result of recent events, we regret to announce that the we will not be running the Air 2000 pilot sponsorship scheme for courses commencing in March 2002. This is a change to advertisements which currently appear in the press.

[ 08 October 2001: Message edited by: Downwind_Left ]

411A 9th Oct 2001 07:32

The guys who had their collective sights on an airline career on the flight deck had better consider another profession....the future does NOT look good for many.
Those that STILL have jobs had better think twice before they rock the boat.
Them's are the facts....no sugar coating.

Ed Roddington 10th Oct 2001 22:28

411A
"Those that STILL have jobs had better think twice before they rock the boat."

Are you preening yourself for management? :eek:

BoeingBoy 11th Oct 2001 02:00

Ed...Don't even rise to this guy.

411A is a lurker 'par excellance' that has nothing better to do than poke his nose into forums that he knows nothing about, has no experience of and finds pleasure in raising the stakes in.

He's a parasite. Just ignore him

411A 11th Oct 2001 02:33

Management already, Ed. And yes, now is definately not the time for pilots to rock the boat.
It's called......co-operate and graduate.

Shagtastic 11th Oct 2001 02:53

411A...where you bottle fed at birth??

exeng 11th Oct 2001 05:07

411A,

Are you related to our dear Guv by chance?

Guv has made a complete fool of himself in the time that he has posted on this forum. I've looked at your posts for a year or so and you seem to be following exactly the same path.

I used to get annoyed by our Guv but now I just skip through his postings unless he has provided a 'link' to something 'intelligent'. His opinions are generally worthless, but occasionally his links can be useful.

Now 411A all you seem to do is post your opinions. Could you please try as hard as the 'Guv' to post some 'links' around here.


Regards
Exeng


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