Emergency landing at Athens International
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Emergency landing at Athens International
Two hours ago a Boeing a/c (Type / operator ????) coming from Manchester with destination Cairo diverted and landed in Athens. Possible pressurisation problems. A few pax hospitalised with ear problems. Any details ??
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Hi
The Jet2 aircraft involved in this afternoon's emergancy landing in Athens was Boeing 757-200, G-LSAA and was operating flight charter flight LS2113 from Manchester to Taba-Egypt.
The airline has now positoned out Boeing 757-200, G-LSAH from Manchester this evening as the LS31P to pick the stranded passengers.
The Jet2 aircraft involved in this afternoon's emergancy landing in Athens was Boeing 757-200, G-LSAA and was operating flight charter flight LS2113 from Manchester to Taba-Egypt.
The airline has now positoned out Boeing 757-200, G-LSAH from Manchester this evening as the LS31P to pick the stranded passengers.
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yeah silverhawk...
Well handled, that's why there's 5 pax in hospital with ear related problems.
...manual operation of the pressurization system is not that difficult, I wonder what happened here?
Cheers...FD...
Well handled, that's why there's 5 pax in hospital with ear related problems.
...manual operation of the pressurization system is not that difficult, I wonder what happened here?
Cheers...FD...
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Hospitalised pax does not of itself indicate poor handling of an abnormal.
When training for my first multi-crew command, my Training Capt described manual pressurisation as akin to milking a mouse. He was right.
When training for my first multi-crew command, my Training Capt described manual pressurisation as akin to milking a mouse. He was right.
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Indeed it was a pressurization problem and the flight lost some height due to the rapid depressurization while over Greece. Captain declared an emergency and requested to land in Athens. Plane did a normal landing on rwy 21L at around 15:30L. Here is a picture of it's landing:
183 passengers and 9 crew were on board.
183 passengers and 9 crew were on board.
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Whats all this tread about ??
Sorry to bleet on but this does not warant a Thread
A/C Had a problem OK not an Emergency
Crew handled the situation and landed without incident I Agree pax with Ear problems would have suffered
Stop this stupid Thread and stop knocking Jet 2
They do what they do safley .
They resovoled the sitaution with a spare A/c sent for the Pax
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Can we plse close this NOW its a waste of space
Regards
Sorry to bleet on but this does not warant a Thread
A/C Had a problem OK not an Emergency
Crew handled the situation and landed without incident I Agree pax with Ear problems would have suffered
Stop this stupid Thread and stop knocking Jet 2
They do what they do safley .
They resovoled the sitaution with a spare A/c sent for the Pax
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Can we plse close this NOW its a waste of space
Regards
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yeah silverhawk...
Well handled, that's why there's 5 pax in hospital with ear related problems.
Well handled, that's why there's 5 pax in hospital with ear related problems.
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Whilst I have no desire to prolong the agony of this non-event, I would just make one observation about the discomfort suffered by some on board.
The understandable desire to land as sson as practicable after a complete loss of cabin pressure can be the cause of this discomfort. If, as has been reported, the aircraft had made a rapid descent to FL 100 or lower without the rubber jungle deploying, then it appears the crew handled it well.
The subsequent short transit to Athens followed by the approach and landing is what causes the problems. If a normal approach is made then the cabin rates of descent are far more than normally experienced by the people on board. An early descent, maintaining around 500fpm from the cruise altitude to touchdown is desired in this instance.
It might well be that the crew in this instance had followed this procedure, but if you are unaware of the effects on the ear of that last few thousand feet of descent then it is quite possible you would overlook this point.
It would not be the first time that ear drums have been ruptured only a few hundred feet above the ground.
The understandable desire to land as sson as practicable after a complete loss of cabin pressure can be the cause of this discomfort. If, as has been reported, the aircraft had made a rapid descent to FL 100 or lower without the rubber jungle deploying, then it appears the crew handled it well.
The subsequent short transit to Athens followed by the approach and landing is what causes the problems. If a normal approach is made then the cabin rates of descent are far more than normally experienced by the people on board. An early descent, maintaining around 500fpm from the cruise altitude to touchdown is desired in this instance.
It might well be that the crew in this instance had followed this procedure, but if you are unaware of the effects on the ear of that last few thousand feet of descent then it is quite possible you would overlook this point.
It would not be the first time that ear drums have been ruptured only a few hundred feet above the ground.
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Rubik is right about the changed rates of descent affecting the ear differently.
Maybe in future the pre-flight emergency briefing should also include an explanation and a demonstration of the Valsalva manoeuvre ?
Maybe in future the pre-flight emergency briefing should also include an explanation and a demonstration of the Valsalva manoeuvre ?
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A/C Had a problem OK not an Emergency
It's true though that later while being vectored to land, he said that there is no problem from this time on and it would be a normal landing.. But initially it was clearly an emergency..
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Considering an emergency descent was required, quite right to declare an emergency with Mayday! It can be cancelled afterwards! Because an emergency was declared initially, it does not mean it has to continue all flight.
So, problem occurs, handled, safe outcome, sorted. End of crisis.
It's depressing to think any problem in the air gets massed ranks of ever-observant Pprune Police out and asking questions, as well as the original problem having to be dealt with!
So, problem occurs, handled, safe outcome, sorted. End of crisis.
It's depressing to think any problem in the air gets massed ranks of ever-observant Pprune Police out and asking questions, as well as the original problem having to be dealt with!
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Agreed.
I realise that there's always an issue with speculation and fears that the press are watching.. but it does seem lately that every topic here is greeted with the usual suspects shouting "close this".
It's "Rumours and News"
An emergency was declared. The a/c diverted and pax were hospitalised. If that doesn't warrant a thread.. what does? Loss of life incidents only?
I realise that there's always an issue with speculation and fears that the press are watching.. but it does seem lately that every topic here is greeted with the usual suspects shouting "close this".
It's "Rumours and News"
An emergency was declared. The a/c diverted and pax were hospitalised. If that doesn't warrant a thread.. what does? Loss of life incidents only?