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block52 2nd Mar 2009 17:22

Emergency landing at Athens International
 
Two hours ago a Boeing a/c (Type / operator ????) coming from Manchester with destination Cairo diverted and landed in Athens. Possible pressurisation problems. A few pax hospitalised with ear problems. Any details ??

glazierflyer 2nd Mar 2009 17:37

Being reported as a Jet2 757 with cabin pressure problems.

philbky 2nd Mar 2009 17:37

BBC TV North West News has just reported this as a Jet 2 B757. Five pax hospitalised.

LBIA 2nd Mar 2009 18:35

Hi

The Jet2 aircraft involved in this afternoon's emergancy landing in Athens was Boeing 757-200, G-LSAA and was operating flight charter flight LS2113 from Manchester to Taba-Egypt.

The airline has now positoned out Boeing 757-200, G-LSAH from Manchester this evening as the LS31P to pick the stranded passengers.

silverhawk 2nd Mar 2009 19:37

Well handled non-normal situation by a professional and well trained crew.

Channex101 3rd Mar 2009 00:33

Onboard at the time were you?
How do you know to be 100% sure?

Flight Detent 3rd Mar 2009 01:23

yeah silverhawk...

Well handled, that's why there's 5 pax in hospital with ear related problems.

...manual operation of the pressurization system is not that difficult, I wonder what happened here?

Cheers...FD...:)

Mr @ Spotty M 3rd Mar 2009 05:11

Told both auto systems failed, as said previously manual used and NO rubber jungle drop, so l would guess handled well.

Capt Claret 3rd Mar 2009 06:26

Hospitalised pax does not of itself indicate poor handling of an abnormal.

When training for my first multi-crew command, my Training Capt described manual pressurisation as akin to milking a mouse. He was right.

MerNion 3rd Mar 2009 08:02

Indeed it was a pressurization problem and the flight lost some height due to the rapid depressurization while over Greece. Captain declared an emergency and requested to land in Athens. Plane did a normal landing on rwy 21L at around 15:30L. Here is a picture of it's landing:

http://www.airpics.net/UserFiles/pic...5450/5438s.jpg

183 passengers and 9 crew were on board.

learjet50 3rd Mar 2009 11:34

Whats all this tread about ??


Sorry to bleet on but this does not warant a Thread
A/C Had a problem OK not an Emergency

Crew handled the situation and landed without incident I Agree pax with Ear problems would have suffered

Stop this stupid Thread and stop knocking Jet 2

They do what they do safley .

They resovoled the sitaution with a spare A/c sent for the Pax

Moderator

Can we plse close this NOW its a waste of space

Regards

lomapaseo 3rd Mar 2009 11:42


Can we plse close this NOW its a waste of space
can't close the thread now, too much interest.

Thanks for keeping the interest up to a fever pitch:}

Mount'in Man 3rd Mar 2009 11:49

Kill it!
 
Fully support Learjet 50. Bin it before we wind up with another fifty pages of ‘expert’ opinions from the “I am’s”, migrating from the “Turkish airliner at Schiphol” post!

Flintstone 3rd Mar 2009 11:58


Originally Posted by Flight Detent
yeah silverhawk...

Well handled, that's why there's 5 pax in hospital with ear related problems.

Five passengers with colds who shouldn't have been flying in the first place? Who knows? Best not to guess then petal ;)

rubik101 3rd Mar 2009 11:59

Whilst I have no desire to prolong the agony of this non-event, I would just make one observation about the discomfort suffered by some on board.
The understandable desire to land as sson as practicable after a complete loss of cabin pressure can be the cause of this discomfort. If, as has been reported, the aircraft had made a rapid descent to FL 100 or lower without the rubber jungle deploying, then it appears the crew handled it well.
The subsequent short transit to Athens followed by the approach and landing is what causes the problems. If a normal approach is made then the cabin rates of descent are far more than normally experienced by the people on board. An early descent, maintaining around 500fpm from the cruise altitude to touchdown is desired in this instance.
It might well be that the crew in this instance had followed this procedure, but if you are unaware of the effects on the ear of that last few thousand feet of descent then it is quite possible you would overlook this point.
It would not be the first time that ear drums have been ruptured only a few hundred feet above the ground.

nannodnai 3rd Mar 2009 12:15

Rubik is right about the changed rates of descent affecting the ear differently.

Maybe in future the pre-flight emergency briefing should also include an explanation and a demonstration of the Valsalva manoeuvre ?

MerNion 3rd Mar 2009 12:27


A/C Had a problem OK not an Emergency
The captain (or the F/O, i don't know who had the comms) clearly stated "Request to land in Athens due to emergency", the controller didn't understand all of it and asked back "EXS 2113 are you declaring an emergency sir?" and he replied: "Affirmative madam, declaring an emergency due to height lost after cabin depressurization. Mayday mayday mayday"

It's true though that later while being vectored to land, he said that there is no problem from this time on and it would be a normal landing.. But initially it was clearly an emergency..

Rainboe 3rd Mar 2009 12:37

Considering an emergency descent was required, quite right to declare an emergency with Mayday! It can be cancelled afterwards! Because an emergency was declared initially, it does not mean it has to continue all flight.

So, problem occurs, handled, safe outcome, sorted. End of crisis.

It's depressing to think any problem in the air gets massed ranks of ever-observant Pprune Police out and asking questions, as well as the original problem having to be dealt with!

Ms Spurtle 3rd Mar 2009 12:47

Agreed.

I realise that there's always an issue with speculation and fears that the press are watching.. but it does seem lately that every topic here is greeted with the usual suspects shouting "close this".

It's "Rumours and News"
An emergency was declared. The a/c diverted and pax were hospitalised. If that doesn't warrant a thread.. what does? Loss of life incidents only? :ugh:

Navigator33 3rd Mar 2009 15:55

O they did declare an emergency alright! Twice even.

Heard a "Mayday mayday mayday" twice just before we were transferred.


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