BA jet landing incident at LCY
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tampax: i refer to the terminal as the computer terminal
opssix: tried that already but unfortunatly it doesnt work, as i said it is an email station and we are not able to use USB,cdrom,disc, download/upload anything, or copy paste using mouse or keyboard controls.
I do however find it a surprise that others have not recieved these photgraphs as I am sure they are "doing the rounds" so to speak.
opssix: tried that already but unfortunatly it doesnt work, as i said it is an email station and we are not able to use USB,cdrom,disc, download/upload anything, or copy paste using mouse or keyboard controls.
I do however find it a surprise that others have not recieved these photgraphs as I am sure they are "doing the rounds" so to speak.
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Yes, it would be good for someone to paste them here. They the airport authority can watch the CCTV footage, find the person who took the pictures and suspend them from work 
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Surely not - The Airport did a piece with the local rag with a big picture of the officers of Airfield Operations , Fire Watch Manager , Safety Operations Control , Office Operations Safety Control and Ramp Coordinator.
It gave their names , ages , positions and their picture. Surely they wouldnt reprimand someone for posting pictures of the aircraft? I hope not as one of the guys had some pics posted on another website!
It gave their names , ages , positions and their picture. Surely they wouldnt reprimand someone for posting pictures of the aircraft? I hope not as one of the guys had some pics posted on another website!
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I can only comment on Swiss's performance at LCY. Very professional and very well conducted crews.
Parked next to the BA today, no main undercarriage. Big box next to the plane, is this a replacement?
Had a quick look around, most of the damage has been covered over.
And cheers for the terminal info. I'm an old school person. I barely know them as "Personal computers". God help me.
How about, forward the e-mail to another e-mail address, such as a friends or even a home address, and then copy and paste?
I've learnt that much over the years.
I saw the paper in the terminal (airport terminal) with those airport guys on the front. Surely the airport would have organised that, or had some involvement, I doubt very much that those staff members would "tell their story" without prior permission. Having their faces and names printed would be an extremely stupid thing to do if that hadn't!!!
Even so, an interesting read and a job well done.
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MMM tried to add the photographs into this website but not having much luck so the computer man at work has helped me, he used a special password and put the photographs onto a compact disk for me and showed me about this "image" thing so other people can see them too, this should work i hope.
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MMM tried to add the photographs into this website but not having much luck so the computer man at work has helped me, he used a special password and put the photographs onto a compact disk for me and showed me about this "image" thing so other people can see them too, this should work i hope.
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Thank you Billy and Lomapaseo
Its not a bad thing to learn something from any incident...
The top of the main fitting has failed adjacent uplock/downlock plunger.
Not sure if this is where the increased 'NDT' (Non-Destructive-Testing) is completed though (Being an Avionic 146/RJ AMT). I know the diagphrams and surrounding NLG bay structures are subjected to NDT.
I'd be interested to see the condition of the uplock/downlock 'stepped Plunger' itself and associated positioning mechanism despite the cracked housing it's (or remains of it are) now living in.
The Pintle Pin attachment housings in airframe held after retraction jack failure allowing main gear fitting to swivel aft, slice through the frame immediately aft of NLG Bay structure and enter the E&E bay. The fescalised portion of the NLG is fully extended and torque links would clearly be damaged.
Avionics dept? NLG Squat sensors + harnesses, written off. Main & Stby Gear Downlock sensors + uplock sensor likely damaged - targets on NLG deformed. The IRUs, ASCU, Main rack looms, Panels 131-11-00 & 131-12-00 seem to have survived the adjacent puncture & scrape damage. The main a/c battery tray has been damaged and there also seems to be some batt feeder damage evident.
All LRUs will be removed for workshop visits to ascertain internal
damage and perform functional checks per CMM. Also, adjacent airframe & honeycomb panels, Looms,Conns & LRUs probably Skydrol contaminated with Green Hyds being lost, Yellow hyds will have been intact for brakes, rudder, inbd lift spoilers & importantly the airstairs - however, fwd ones not reqd that day..
There will be structural inspections including further NDT, alignment checks (again, sorry BXAR) and consequent frame, skin & longeron replacement as determined by BAe. A truly expensive repair but not a write off. Not sure if an Embraer would do as well (Although, I am increasingly impressed the more I work on them).
I (as well as others) do however look forward to seeing an official report generated by far more official and competent, nominated personnel than myself. No really, good luck gents. Its going to be a busy year for you. I do not envy your duties.
Send your gratitude to Cologne and its super NAA's with the highest standards.
BAe146
P.S. What did Muirhead say regarding G-BXAR's DFDR data dump - especially ADC & accelerometer parameters?
(Tin hat secured)
Its not a bad thing to learn something from any incident...
The top of the main fitting has failed adjacent uplock/downlock plunger.
Not sure if this is where the increased 'NDT' (Non-Destructive-Testing) is completed though (Being an Avionic 146/RJ AMT). I know the diagphrams and surrounding NLG bay structures are subjected to NDT.
I'd be interested to see the condition of the uplock/downlock 'stepped Plunger' itself and associated positioning mechanism despite the cracked housing it's (or remains of it are) now living in.
The Pintle Pin attachment housings in airframe held after retraction jack failure allowing main gear fitting to swivel aft, slice through the frame immediately aft of NLG Bay structure and enter the E&E bay. The fescalised portion of the NLG is fully extended and torque links would clearly be damaged.
Avionics dept? NLG Squat sensors + harnesses, written off. Main & Stby Gear Downlock sensors + uplock sensor likely damaged - targets on NLG deformed. The IRUs, ASCU, Main rack looms, Panels 131-11-00 & 131-12-00 seem to have survived the adjacent puncture & scrape damage. The main a/c battery tray has been damaged and there also seems to be some batt feeder damage evident.
All LRUs will be removed for workshop visits to ascertain internal
damage and perform functional checks per CMM. Also, adjacent airframe & honeycomb panels, Looms,Conns & LRUs probably Skydrol contaminated with Green Hyds being lost, Yellow hyds will have been intact for brakes, rudder, inbd lift spoilers & importantly the airstairs - however, fwd ones not reqd that day..
There will be structural inspections including further NDT, alignment checks (again, sorry BXAR) and consequent frame, skin & longeron replacement as determined by BAe. A truly expensive repair but not a write off. Not sure if an Embraer would do as well (Although, I am increasingly impressed the more I work on them).
I (as well as others) do however look forward to seeing an official report generated by far more official and competent, nominated personnel than myself. No really, good luck gents. Its going to be a busy year for you. I do not envy your duties.
Send your gratitude to Cologne and its super NAA's with the highest standards.
BAe146
P.S. What did Muirhead say regarding G-BXAR's DFDR data dump - especially ADC & accelerometer parameters?
(Tin hat secured)
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BA fleet at LCY
Have BA done any proving flights in and out of LCY with The Embraer 170 /190 I read that they will be changing the fleet from RJ by October. This should be interesting.
Anyone know when the Airbus 318 service to NY starts?
Anyone know when the Airbus 318 service to NY starts?
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Can't wait to see how ops are going to park them - given that the 170 is over 3m (190 - 6m) longer than an RJ100, who's horizontal stab sticks out over the road when parked on stand. OK for the RJ because it's so high but the Emb is a low stab......
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Originally Posted by DutchBird-757
Are you sure the 170 is longer than a RJ100? You must be thinking of the 190 surely.
Overall lengths, according to ATI:
E170: 29.9 m
E190: 36.2 m
RJ100: 31.0 m
A318: 31.4 m
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Are A319s certified for use at LCY? I had understood that they had been, but is parking an issue for them?
It's 3m shorter (roughly) than the 190, albeit with a slightly bigger wingspan (the 319 is c. 33m both ways - w/span and length).
I ask because I understand that BA has plans to develop its long haul ops at LCY, given the success of the New York operation; it has two o/s 318 options, but I'm wondering if these could be converted to 319s.
It's 3m shorter (roughly) than the 190, albeit with a slightly bigger wingspan (the 319 is c. 33m both ways - w/span and length).
I ask because I understand that BA has plans to develop its long haul ops at LCY, given the success of the New York operation; it has two o/s 318 options, but I'm wondering if these could be converted to 319s.