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Fairness in LHR??
Oh, I remember one time waiting with running engine for our gate at T4 to be cleared. It was occupied by a BA 744 which was obviously ready to be towed but according to GMC BA had no tug. While waiting though (for 45 minutes !), we could see several other BA aircraft towed away from their gates just in time for another Speedbird (which all had just touched down) to dock.
Still waiting for my chance to send a Speedbird in the G/A, just to make things even
Still waiting for my chance to send a Speedbird in the G/A, just to make things even
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what's the rush Gents?
don't you guys get paid by the minute?
I sure do. and last few weeks, all 3 times taking off out of FCO-JFK, had to depart 16R(due to TW), no problem as we saunter on down--after waiting to cross 25, then further waiting at the end.
we say, "ka-ching" when that occurs, and smile!
besides, we're in contract negotiations.
AA is using the DGS (docking guidance systems) in DFW, MIA & JFK to start and stop our pay, based on aircraft movement....NOT brakes released/set anymore.
what goes around, comes around......"1 minute at a time"
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don't you guys get paid by the minute?
I sure do. and last few weeks, all 3 times taking off out of FCO-JFK, had to depart 16R(due to TW), no problem as we saunter on down--after waiting to cross 25, then further waiting at the end.
we say, "ka-ching" when that occurs, and smile!
besides, we're in contract negotiations.
AA is using the DGS (docking guidance systems) in DFW, MIA & JFK to start and stop our pay, based on aircraft movement....NOT brakes released/set anymore.
what goes around, comes around......"1 minute at a time"
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TRN today. Low vis in force. Told we're numer three for start. Five and an hour later we're told that we are number three!! An Ally Md-80 managed to land get turned around and be out before we were allowed to start..
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One of the previous posts inferred LHR gave priority to BA departures. Having operated frequently out of LHR I found the opposite. BA long haul planes used to have a short taxi from T4 to R/W 27L, had a lengthy safety video and were often slow with the radio loadsheet. Consequently they were sometimes not ready when reaching the hold point. Tower often said to BA planes "report ready". Only then were they put in the sequence. I'm sure any LHR tower controllers who read this forum will confirm it and that they do not give any other airlines the "report ready" instruction. So in my view LHR ATC not biased towards BA, if anything the opposite.
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Many of us are paid by the mile that's why we are always in a hurry, being early or late doesn't affect our salary thus it's better to be early (more time home).
Hey no bad feelings OK?
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Paid by TAXPAYER
The majority of us is not getting paid by the taxpayer, we pay tax and we pay the Government and all the other Officials who think they are the ones who giving us something.... vice versa I would say the Government is Taxpayers Employee, did you try it that way?
As we use less time to have our Engines running we do not pollute the Air and the Enviorement, needless to say everybody is benefitting from that fact. Earlier at home is the convenient part of it but as a matter fact we save alot more then time and money by that without having a direct (monetary) benefit. If I would taxi slower and fly a smaller MACH I would certainly get some overtime as our roster getīs us close to the benchmark....but the benefit of beeing earlier in your own bed: Priceless....
Fly safe and land happy
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As we use less time to have our Engines running we do not pollute the Air and the Enviorement, needless to say everybody is benefitting from that fact. Earlier at home is the convenient part of it but as a matter fact we save alot more then time and money by that without having a direct (monetary) benefit. If I would taxi slower and fly a smaller MACH I would certainly get some overtime as our roster getīs us close to the benchmark....but the benefit of beeing earlier in your own bed: Priceless....
Fly safe and land happy
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Oh, I remember one time waiting with running engine for our gate at T4 to be cleared. It was occupied by a BA 744 which was obviously ready to be towed but according to GMC BA had no tug. While waiting though (for 45 minutes !), we could see several other BA aircraft towed away from their gates just in time for another Speedbird (which all had just touched down) to dock.
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The majority of us is not getting paid by the taxpayer,
In their case not only the taxpayer is responsible for the agony of a bankrupt airline but also for the wellbeing of their furloughs!
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Oh, I remember one time waiting with running engine for our gate at T4 to be cleared. It was occupied by a BA 744 which was obviously ready to be towed but according to GMC BA had no tug. While waiting though (for 45 minutes !), we could see several other BA aircraft towed away from their gates just in time for another Speedbird (which all had just touched down) to dock.
And sorry, I wasn't aiming at ATC (the best!), just got a little bit frustrated by BA