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Old 18th Oct 2008, 09:09
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Lh Engine Fail

A Lufthansa flight operating from DUS to antalya had a engine fail today at 05H50 GMT and diverted to Belgrade. Any news about this incident?
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It was XL Germany.
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My local German radio station reported the type as a Boeing 373
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XL 737- 800, Declared an emergency and 28 minutes later landed safely at Belgrade's airport. No injuries. Victims said there were open fire on port side engine.
Some local officials said this morning there were a few minutes left before crash.
Congratulations to pilots and ATCOs as well.
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a lufthansa/xl Boeing 373/737-800. Wow! Thats a slight difference :-)

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My friend witnessed it as he was at LYBE at that time and he said there was smoke coming out of the left engine when it touched down and immediately after the jet stopped, they evacuated and then sprayed foam into the left engine.

Good job by the pilots
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Who come up with this five mins to manoeuver crap.....

Good job by the looks of it guys

Ps what did CFM sell XL having a laugh 2 in 4 months.
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Who come up with this five mins to manoeuver crap....
Airport company CEO.
"expert"
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German news magazine "Der Spiegel" has a similar report on their website.
The cream of german journalism calls it a 737 and later says something about the "Jumbo" jet.

Some experts.

Inflight shutdown with precautionary landing, it seeme to me...

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pics

If you look behind the left engine in the pics, it appears that something did burn the wing...good job by the pilots in getting on the ground fast.....
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CNN reported that it was a Lufthansa Boeing 737-800.... Thankyou for the nice advertisement!
(Lufthansa only have old -500 and -300 series).

I still remember when that Avro RJ crashed near Zurich a few years ago, and the TV-reporter said that it was "a passenger aircraft of Jumboline".
 
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Were the Crossair Avro Jets not knicknamed Jumbolinas?
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Yes, the 146 series are affectionately called "jumbolina" by crew/atc/etc although it is quite amusing to see the in-joke then being reported completely seriously by a journalist.
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Certainly in the last picture on the link, the flap and the "bullet" on the trailing edge look more scorched than just dirty.
Wonder what was the scariest part, the incident , or walking out to the apron to discover they had subbed in a Bulgarian airbus ? ?
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Yes, the 146 series are affectionately called "jumbolina" by crew/atc/etc although it is quite amusing to see the in-joke then being reported completely seriously by a journalist.
Why has the Jumbolina got 4 engines?

Because they couldn't fit any more under the wings....
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It is actually " Jumbolinos " . the nickname originated by Crossair if I remember
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Nickname???

As frequent SLF on CrossAir some years back I seem to remember that the name Jumbolino actually appeared on the Safety Briefing Card and was certainly included in the welcome message given by crew. That makes it more than a nickname to me. Any apologies to the journo in question?

Seems like we need some CrossAir input here.
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Old 22nd Oct 2008, 14:04
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Jumbolino

I'm not Crossair but can definitely confirm that this was an official "name" given by the airline, probably the CEO (at that time Moritz Suter) when they 1st added BAe 146s to the fleet. A bit of "typical Moritz publicity" actually - Suter had (still has?) a lot of commercial ties to the Italian-speaking part of Switerland (Kanton Tessin).

Of course it will be obvious that the "Jumbo" bit comes from the 4 engines (like a B747 -"Jumbo" in every day people's speak) and the "lino" is a sort of italian-ish word meaning small.

The name was "official" within Crossair in so far that all their publicity, inc web site stuff, brochures, the fleet list in the In Flight mag, etc, etc, and also the seat back Safety Briefing Card all used the Jumbolino name. When the 146s were later changed to Avro RJs (and don't forget, many experts find great difficuty to tell them apart externally), the name was simply continued.

So I for one can certainly "forgive" any non-specialist journalist for referring to a Crossair (or a Swiss) 146 or RJ as a "Jumbolino".

And I suppose (he says, now very much tongue in cheek!) that now Crossair is called Swiss (which in turn is now Lufthansa), and as Lufthansa City Line also operates RJ's (and did operate 146s previously, when they were DLT), we could also now "allow" blue and yellow liveried RJ's to called "Jumbolino" too?

Hope that clarifies (and/or amuses).

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The name was "official" within Crossair in so far that all their publicity, inc web site stuff, brochures, the fleet list in the In Flight mag, etc, etc, and also the seat back Safety Briefing Card all used the Jumbolino name.
Correct - and the Saab 2000 was called (due to her fast speed - for a propjet) "Concordino".
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