Air Dolomiti ATR catches fire in Munich (25 Aug 2008)
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It is not so hard.
The question that I would like you to answer though is, that since both cabin attendants have to stay in the aircraft to ensure that people get out front and aft before the front one is reliefed by the pilots, who is going outside with them passengers?
There are two emergency zones, one front one aft. You have two FAs. Who goes outside?
I have no FA left to go outside BEFORE making sure that everyone has evacuated (that includes the pilots who might be incapacitated)!
The question that I would like you to answer though is, that since both cabin attendants have to stay in the aircraft to ensure that people get out front and aft before the front one is reliefed by the pilots, who is going outside with them passengers?
There are two emergency zones, one front one aft. You have two FAs. Who goes outside?
I have no FA left to go outside BEFORE making sure that everyone has evacuated (that includes the pilots who might be incapacitated)!
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Another question that nobody has asked yet: How large is ATC's part in this? They forced the ATR to abort the take off. I dont know how fast the ATR was when the abort was given but it seems pretty fast from the consequences and ensuing chaos on the taxiway.
Is there something we can learn from the actions ATC have taken? Would it have been better to let the Dolomiti depart and maybe give the landing aircraft a visual break away instead of the standard missed approach? It was VMC after all.
Just asking, because the damage to the ATR looks expensive......
Is there something we can learn from the actions ATC have taken? Would it have been better to let the Dolomiti depart and maybe give the landing aircraft a visual break away instead of the standard missed approach? It was VMC after all.
Just asking, because the damage to the ATR looks expensive......
Previous airline's procedure:
who is going outside with them passengers?
- Aircraft stops
- Captain and FO complete shut-down [of engines] procedure
- Captain orders evacuation
- FO grabs hat (visible symbol of authority), fire extinguisher and torch and evacuates to direct and gather passengers on the ground
- Captain liaises with ATC and fire services on the radio
- FAs complete the evacuation of passengers, check cabin and leave
- Captain checks evacuation complete and leaves
- Captain directs passenger count outside of aircraft
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And of course you would also give us the type of aircraft involved in your ckecklist?
The FO in the ATR has to go back through the bag compartment to evacuate (which might be a bit of trouble firsthand), potentially disrupting the pax flow and creating confusion. Also by doing this he has to knock over the FA standing there yelling the pax out of the airplane...
Procedures are common to a TYPE, but not necessarily accross the board of all types existing!
The FO in the ATR has to go back through the bag compartment to evacuate (which might be a bit of trouble firsthand), potentially disrupting the pax flow and creating confusion. Also by doing this he has to knock over the FA standing there yelling the pax out of the airplane...
Procedures are common to a TYPE, but not necessarily accross the board of all types existing!
