Fake Sri Lankan Airlines Captain
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"Heard from several sources that many expat non rated DEC's pull the wool over Korean eyes too.
Also many South African cruise pilots logged their B744 cruise time as P1 time, colluded with a corrupt KE recruitment officer and got to be KE B744 skippers!
Easy to do fellas...the Koreans are real slack with background checks; when the realise they were fooled, they just keep quiet so as n NOT TO LOSR FACE."
As SLF who is a Prof. of Linguistics at a Korean university, that is quite true.
This country is really one of who you know. If a Korean pilot were to lie about his qualifications, he would only get fired if he did not know anyone up higher, however he would not have gotten the job without knowing someone. Some excuse would be made like he was just trying to support his family and we must understand him. If he is non-Korean then he would be fired the next day and the story hushed. In this case the non-Korean would be made out as the bad guy after all 'We trusted him and look at what he did"
This country is not near as bad as Thailand or China, but nowhere near where it should be in terms of moral obligation to be responsible and honest. The problem in Korea at times is that foreigners are socially lower and more at risk of discrimination. (At least in China however they cheet and lie to each other just as much as to foreigners as money comes before nationalism there)
I will say this also about Korea, they do the big things right. Incheon is a beautiful and efficient airport (from SLF perspective). I really enjoy going through there (as much as any airport) with only HK being better in my opinion (Starbucks passenger side makes a big difference compared to Dunkin Donuts ).
I have however no faith in any Korean airline, especially KAL. They look good on the outside and seem nice, but I just can not trust that some Korean mechanic would not on occasion take a short cut when nobody is looking. (Please mechanics, I am not saying they do, I am only saying that I do not trust that they dont. My grandfather was an AC mechanic in Regina until his retirement in about 1981 so I have great respect for mechanics in general)
Sorry for the little rant on Korea. Have lived here for most of 9 years and married one of the locals so ......
Also many South African cruise pilots logged their B744 cruise time as P1 time, colluded with a corrupt KE recruitment officer and got to be KE B744 skippers!
Easy to do fellas...the Koreans are real slack with background checks; when the realise they were fooled, they just keep quiet so as n NOT TO LOSR FACE."
As SLF who is a Prof. of Linguistics at a Korean university, that is quite true.
This country is really one of who you know. If a Korean pilot were to lie about his qualifications, he would only get fired if he did not know anyone up higher, however he would not have gotten the job without knowing someone. Some excuse would be made like he was just trying to support his family and we must understand him. If he is non-Korean then he would be fired the next day and the story hushed. In this case the non-Korean would be made out as the bad guy after all 'We trusted him and look at what he did"
This country is not near as bad as Thailand or China, but nowhere near where it should be in terms of moral obligation to be responsible and honest. The problem in Korea at times is that foreigners are socially lower and more at risk of discrimination. (At least in China however they cheet and lie to each other just as much as to foreigners as money comes before nationalism there)
I will say this also about Korea, they do the big things right. Incheon is a beautiful and efficient airport (from SLF perspective). I really enjoy going through there (as much as any airport) with only HK being better in my opinion (Starbucks passenger side makes a big difference compared to Dunkin Donuts ).
I have however no faith in any Korean airline, especially KAL. They look good on the outside and seem nice, but I just can not trust that some Korean mechanic would not on occasion take a short cut when nobody is looking. (Please mechanics, I am not saying they do, I am only saying that I do not trust that they dont. My grandfather was an AC mechanic in Regina until his retirement in about 1981 so I have great respect for mechanics in general)
Sorry for the little rant on Korea. Have lived here for most of 9 years and married one of the locals so ......
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I know its a long time ago ........but does anyone remember the 707 pilot dubbed the 'Bristol Cowboy' by Flight International, after he took out the approach lights on take off in Bristol, and then proceeded to Kuwait.
A fine example of a PPL flying a 'Heavy'!!
A fine example of a PPL flying a 'Heavy'!!
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9Q-CRY
Wasn't that aircraft 9Q-CRY, came into Lasham for some maintenance but only wanted the bear minimum done, just to get it back in the air, paid cash i seemed to remember. Very dodgey crew, aircraft later found burnt out down in Africa
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Also many South African cruise pilots logged their B744 cruise time as P1 time, colluded with a corrupt KE recruitment officer and got to be KE B744 skippers!
Easy to do fellas...the Koreans are real slack with background checks; when the realise they were fooled, they just keep quiet so as n NOT TO LOSR FACE.
The same thing happened back in the early 80's with an American passing himself off as a Captain when he was actually a SAUDIA FO on the Tri-Star. The jig was up when another SAUDIA crew member ran into him in Columbo. Sri Lanka seems to never have learned its lesson.
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He is just one of many who simply got caught. If you had a decent training curriculum, once passed the check you are qualified to act as PIC.
Even tough I do not approve this kind of act, sometimes I understand why guys are doing this.
The company I am currently flying for accepts only highly experienced FOs.
Than you need to spend at least 5 RH seat years to enter the pool. Once selected your upgrade training course will last more than a year. The failure rate is 85%.
It is easier to become an astronaut at ESA than commander here.
And yet they employ DECs even non type rated who has never flown wide body jets.
All this training bs. is simply introduced by a strong Captain's lobby to have their job more valuable an highly paid. The gap between FO's and PIC's is wider and wider. I recently got an offer from a very stable airline who pays their FO's only 50% of captains salary. And they need only type rated guys with more than a 1000 on type (wide body).
KAL employs DECs but prevents hired DFOs to be upgraded ever (stated in a contract).
FOs at low cost carriers and in the US are paid less than janitors.
On the other hand there is a strong influx of pay for training 200hrs FOs with no idea of what flying really is.
I think that there should be a totaly independent ICAO body established only to evaluate, train and give PIC endorsement to qualified FOs.
Something like a PhD or similar but we are so far from that kind of unification and I don't think that it will ever happen.
This profession is at it's knees.
Even tough I do not approve this kind of act, sometimes I understand why guys are doing this.
The company I am currently flying for accepts only highly experienced FOs.
Than you need to spend at least 5 RH seat years to enter the pool. Once selected your upgrade training course will last more than a year. The failure rate is 85%.
It is easier to become an astronaut at ESA than commander here.
And yet they employ DECs even non type rated who has never flown wide body jets.
All this training bs. is simply introduced by a strong Captain's lobby to have their job more valuable an highly paid. The gap between FO's and PIC's is wider and wider. I recently got an offer from a very stable airline who pays their FO's only 50% of captains salary. And they need only type rated guys with more than a 1000 on type (wide body).
KAL employs DECs but prevents hired DFOs to be upgraded ever (stated in a contract).
FOs at low cost carriers and in the US are paid less than janitors.
On the other hand there is a strong influx of pay for training 200hrs FOs with no idea of what flying really is.
I think that there should be a totaly independent ICAO body established only to evaluate, train and give PIC endorsement to qualified FOs.
Something like a PhD or similar but we are so far from that kind of unification and I don't think that it will ever happen.
This profession is at it's knees.
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Than you need to spend at least 5 RH seat years to enter the pool. Once selected your upgrade training course will last more than a year. The failure rate is 85%.
In the U.S., all you need is a warm body, a pulse and a seniority number to upgrade. It is unusual for someone not to make it on the first try although an extra sim or recheck is not uncommon.
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Pilot dismissed
Update .. There is a question going around if the passenger safety was compromised ..
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SriLankan pilot dismissed
The SriLankan Airlines, the country’s national carrier has terminated the services of a foreign licensed pilot who was found to have submitted a falsified letter to the airline and initiated an inquiry into the incident.
In a statement, the SriLankan Airlines said yesterday that this particular employee, holds a valid Airline Transport Pilot’s license from the Civil Aviation Authority of the Federal Republic of Germany, which endorsed his rating as a Captain on the Airbus A340, A330 and A320 aircraft. This license is in accordance with the standards of the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO), the global governing body of the industry It also said that prior to joining the SriLankan Airlines in October 2007, he had worked for European, Asian and Middle Eastern airlines. However, the pilot had submitted a false document in order to satisfy a criteria specific to SriLankan which stipulates that directly recruited Captains require 1000 hours of flying experience as a captain on a particular aircraft.
On July 22 the SriLankan Airlines received information that this employee had not held a captain’s post in the airline he was employed at immediately prior to joining the SriLankan. A clarification of this information was sought by the SriLankan Airlines from his previous employer who replied with a confirmation of the information the next day. The pilot was dismissed after a formal inquiry held by the airline on July 23. The airline has informed the Civil Aviation Authority of Sri Lanka about this incident, it added.
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SriLankan pilot dismissed
The SriLankan Airlines, the country’s national carrier has terminated the services of a foreign licensed pilot who was found to have submitted a falsified letter to the airline and initiated an inquiry into the incident.
In a statement, the SriLankan Airlines said yesterday that this particular employee, holds a valid Airline Transport Pilot’s license from the Civil Aviation Authority of the Federal Republic of Germany, which endorsed his rating as a Captain on the Airbus A340, A330 and A320 aircraft. This license is in accordance with the standards of the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO), the global governing body of the industry It also said that prior to joining the SriLankan Airlines in October 2007, he had worked for European, Asian and Middle Eastern airlines. However, the pilot had submitted a false document in order to satisfy a criteria specific to SriLankan which stipulates that directly recruited Captains require 1000 hours of flying experience as a captain on a particular aircraft.
On July 22 the SriLankan Airlines received information that this employee had not held a captain’s post in the airline he was employed at immediately prior to joining the SriLankan. A clarification of this information was sought by the SriLankan Airlines from his previous employer who replied with a confirmation of the information the next day. The pilot was dismissed after a formal inquiry held by the airline on July 23. The airline has informed the Civil Aviation Authority of Sri Lanka about this incident, it added.
I know its a long time ago ........but does anyone remember the 707 pilot dubbed the 'Bristol Cowboy' by Flight International
Very dodgy maintenance, flew around with one main gear leg extended for a while. The aircraft was grounded after sand and metal pieces found in the engine oil systems in suspicious circumstances. The Khans disappeared soon afterwards.
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Your version is bullsh!t.
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So that the way the new JAR-Standards moved?
I remember working in an expanding german charter-airline about 10 years ago and I had to stamp the licences of upgraded f/o's with "cancelled" and handover new licences (german ATPLs) to pilots that came along to pick them up.
All included a picture!
I remember working in an expanding german charter-airline about 10 years ago and I had to stamp the licences of upgraded f/o's with "cancelled" and handover new licences (german ATPLs) to pilots that came along to pick them up.
All included a picture!
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He should'nt be arrested
The guy who fooled them should be promoted because if he was that good and had the hours he deserved being pic because it shows how
weak that company is technically , the german co-pilot was actually doing the Sri Lankan company a favor.
weak that company is technically , the german co-pilot was actually doing the Sri Lankan company a favor.
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he had worked for European, Asian and Middle Eastern airlines.
The guy who fooled them should be promoted because if he was that good and had the hours he deserved being pic because it shows how
weak that company is technically , the german co-pilot was actually doing the Sri Lankan company a favor
weak that company is technically , the german co-pilot was actually doing the Sri Lankan company a favor
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Would someone do us all a favour and reveal the name of this trickster? Only then could one pinpoint the person. I do not think it would be any defamation - just the name from reliable sources.
Thanks.
Thanks.