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XL Airways new 737 diverts to LCA

Old 20th Jul 2008, 16:56
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Congratulations Yamaha, you now make up 50% of my ignore list. Can we get back to the point please?
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Old 20th Jul 2008, 17:01
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If you do a full preparation it takes at least one hour.
Securing cabin - pax brief and so on.
If your aircraft is not falling out of the sky you take the time you need.
B737 flying on one engine is not falling out of the sky.
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Old 20th Jul 2008, 17:59
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I really have no idea, 15 mins as a guess???
this is exactly why people are telling you to shut up and where to go.


I say it again. You are whats wrong with this forum
if you look on the to left of your web page is clearly says PROFESSIONAL PILOTS in big bold letters. there is no harm in asking a question but when you make it a point to lead a thread when as you have clearly admitted you dont have a clue what you talking about, thats where everyone is saying what they think of you.


I'll check my flt sim to see where that is
thats some detailed reasurch you got there...........

if you read the post one person put up after talking to the crew, you would have read that the aircraft still had to fly about a bit overhead LCA to burn of fuel so it makes no difference to where they landed as airtime would have been the same. you also found out for you detailed reasurch the ground distance which is very good.... but what about head/ tail winds? im sorry to say all this flight sim reasurch you have done is a waste.

LASORS usualy has answers to alot of question, i wonder if they will have any answers on how to make people sit down and pipe down.
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Old 20th Jul 2008, 19:25
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The Professional Pilots Rumour Network (PPRuNe) is a community of professional pilots and people who work in aviation, both experienced and inexperienced. Your behaviour here, and ours, can be summed up in four words: “Mi casa, su casa” (my house is your house).
I think you are the ones with a problem. You are being arrogant, pompous and unfriendly. I have only been inquisitive, honest and open. Furthermore I have not broken any rules and do not claim to have sole rights over who can do or say what. I also openly state I don't know.

I do seem to have upset a few precious ego's though because I dare to ask.....why?

I read the rules upon registering......have you?
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Old 20th Jul 2008, 20:12
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I've never felt the need to block anyone before but Yamaha, you've managed to be my first!
You seem totally unable to listen to advice from people who Do know what they are talking about. Ask questions by all means - but when you've received a reply, well, just SHUT UP!!!! Right through this thread you have failed to take heed of anything you've been told and clearly demonstrated that you are merely a stirring d==khead.
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Old 20th Jul 2008, 20:26
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Time to take a vote?
Yamaha....shut it! Horrid noisy squealy things anyway!
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Old 20th Jul 2008, 20:35
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yamaha, congratulations. When it comes to digging a hole you are even quicker than this thing YouTube - Komatsu excavator digging
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Old 20th Jul 2008, 20:52
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Yamaha, 22 August 2005....you won't believe this:
Can we now please close or lock this extremely boring and totally unhelpful thread.

This really does nothing more than highlight the negative aspect of forums and really doesn't do our reputations as professionals any good at all.

The named individual has done absolutely nothing to deserve this.
You're just stirring trouble here! Here is another gem from you:
This isn't about military types or heroes.

This is about a human being, behaving in a human manner.

It is a sad day when most here seem to want strict adherence to the rules to come before sensible human interpretation of them.

How short a memory you have.
And did you really write this....especially the last line?
Its about whether one should allow common sense to be used.
Pablo applied common sense, behaved like a well balanced human being and attempted to assist a fellow human being with a fear of flying.

Quite clearly nobody absolutely nobody was at any risk whatsoever and to imply anything other is PATHETIC.

MYT on the other hand showed a complete lack of common sense, dealt with the problem in an inappropriate amateur way and thats for them to worry about.

History documents quite clearly where you end up as a society by accepting and implementing a policy of blind acceptance of any rule.
Your posting history shows you to be very confused.

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Old 20th Jul 2008, 21:41
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rainboe really, have you nothing better to do. But unfortunately you will be disappointed.

The first quoted post was in response to nothing more than a pack of wolves wanting David Learmounts blood. As now it was a pathetic display of behaviour from so called professionals.

The second was supporting Pablo's actions. There are many out there who have a fear of flying. If you are trying to justify your behaviour by highlighting a comment I made about sticking to rules, surely you can do better than that.

The subject matter does not in any way compare.
I think you are confusing me with someone you need to impress. And I have to say it's not working.
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Old 20th Jul 2008, 22:42
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Give it a rest now. You obviously have judgement issues. It's a good job you are not a real pilot because your decision making process is profoundly flawed, so please stop pointing any more fingers of blame. Bye loser.
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Old 20th Jul 2008, 23:48
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Good evening/morning/afternoon folks. The original topic is over here on 'this' side. The whinging, mithering and point scoring is on 'that' side.

All those not wanting a thread ban or worse stand on this side please.

Thank you.


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Old 20th Jul 2008, 23:55
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As of last night, they still had not found anything wrong with the engine. Not my company, but I was told by an engineer from XL.

One benefit from this is that at least the crew reported the defect on landing in LCA! I hope I am not banned for this rumour?
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Old 20th Jul 2008, 23:56
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It's on topic so why should you be? I could click the 'ban' button if you like though?
 
Old 20th Jul 2008, 23:59
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Hey, Rainboe - thought you'd added Yamaha to your ignore list - you're talking to him!!

With regard to pilots consideration of passenger's welfare; occupants of the flight deck tend to be the first to arrive at the scene of the crash so it is in their interest to make sure that safe decisions are made.

Notwithstanding that, some other considerations may have been overlooked;

At what time did the incident happen?
When do the bars close?
Do I have an 'Aunty' at div airport?
Have I finished Soduku/crossword?

To be fair, we tend to start planning a normal approach and landing about 20-30 minutes out, with a donk out isn't an everyday occurrence so to allow 60 minutes to cross the T's and dot the I's is not unreasonable.

Yamaha, are you Pablo's love child - or a professional footballer?
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Old 21st Jul 2008, 00:07
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Up to you old chap. I was concerned as I am not a professional pilot and would not like to upset anybody, honest!
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Old 21st Jul 2008, 00:23
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Litebulbs.


The issue here is not who posts but what is posted. Some feel only professional pilots should be allowed but in fairness to them it is the lunatic fringe with their barmpot ideas and armchair expertise that has brought them to call for such a restriction.

For my part anyone goes, just not anything.

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Old 21st Jul 2008, 00:47
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Duck,

The interesting thing to me is how these armchair lunatics have managed to get the professional pilots so wound up. 99% of the flying types agree that the correct decision was made, so enough said. If I was on the flight as a pax, I would agree that the correct decision was made using my knowledge of how airlines work and how safe you pilots are.
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Old 21st Jul 2008, 09:12
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Thumbs down

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Why dont you just end this thread, I think it has run its course now and is geting a little silly
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Old 21st Jul 2008, 12:12
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Yamaha, do you think that when an engine fails in flight that the aircraft suddenly falls out the sky, plummeting towards the ground? Perhaps this is what you allow to happen when you play on your flight simulator but professional pilots would, if they could be bothered with you, explain how this would not normally be the case. The a/c involved in this incident flew on for approximately 1.5 hrs on one engine like the aircraft is designed to be able to do in this situation and the crew is trained to cope with.

If the a/c was on fire or there was any smoke at all in the cabin or flight deck which could not be removed or source found then the actions must always to be to get the a/c on the ground as quickly as possible. With love from Mr Boeing.

Yamaha, you must clearly see how you are winding people up in this thread by asking questions (fair enough) but later dismissing the answers by still harping on about the distance comparisons between Cairo & Larnaca and referring to your "Egyptian source". Please just wait for the report and take on board the reasons and explanations provided to you by us professionals.

I hope you continue to enjoy rescuing your aircraft from certain disaster on the flight sim by turning 180 degrees and getting on the ground within 5 mins. Perhaps you could ask your councelor or asylum guard to simulate being the cabin crew and liasing with them about preparing the cabin. Then they could be your co-pilot and help run the checklist, balance the fuel, obtain weather information, get the plates out for your best two alternates and all the while flying the aircraft and hoping that on some crummy internet forum somewhere people won't be questioning your decisions!
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