Phuket Engine Failure - JED 04 JUL 08
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Make a water fountain out of it
Mutt, nice pic. So why is this sitting in the parking lot of the hotel where the Phuket Air staff stay ?
Imagine this thing landing on your kids while they play in the back yard
Mr Berenji from the Saudi PCA, where are you ? oh, right, you are at the bank depositing the blood money you take from this operation. I hope Allah cornhole's you good when you meet him.
Imagine this thing landing on your kids while they play in the back yard
Mr Berenji from the Saudi PCA, where are you ? oh, right, you are at the bank depositing the blood money you take from this operation. I hope Allah cornhole's you good when you meet him.
Removed from the desert and now sitting in the AlBadr hotel car park
(see above for pic)
Now where have I seen that before
Off the end of the runway at JFK etc. etc.
Old fashion LPT failure, maintenance program in place for years to address.
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FAA office in Jeddah
BTW, did they succeed in getting CADC1 fixed in HS-VAN ??? Or are they trying to set a new record for flying without it?
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Confirmation Anyone?
Rumours saying the aft engine section impacted the ground 300 meters from the Kings Palace.
Is this a close enough wake up call ?
Or will Saudi just turn the blind eye and call it a near miss!!!!!
Is this a close enough wake up call ?
Or will Saudi just turn the blind eye and call it a near miss!!!!!
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Hmmm, seems what SV needs (once again) is some reliable Lockheed Tri-motors in the mix.
When I was there (long ago) the dispatch reliability of the L10 was approching 99%.
About the same now with a few operators.
When I was there (long ago) the dispatch reliability of the L10 was approching 99%.
About the same now with a few operators.
The remains landed off the end of 32 (L or C) I dont know.
We are at 5D and on the coast and it flew over us as it turned out to sea, from lift off out to about 2D there is really not much except for a few roads but mostly desert.
Either side of Obhur Creek there are populated areas, but I believe it landed in the first 2D from lift off.
Had this happened over a populated area then, someone could have had a very bad day from a nasty piece of hot & heavy airmail!
Lucky boys.
We are at 5D and on the coast and it flew over us as it turned out to sea, from lift off out to about 2D there is really not much except for a few roads but mostly desert.
Either side of Obhur Creek there are populated areas, but I believe it landed in the first 2D from lift off.
Had this happened over a populated area then, someone could have had a very bad day from a nasty piece of hot & heavy airmail!
Lucky boys.
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I havent seen that aircraft flying since the event, have GACA still got it grounded? Actually their 2nd aircraft also appears to be grounded leaving just 1 still flying. Busiest time of year and they cant keep the aircraft flying, excellent way of doing business
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Perhaps maybe a better question Mutt.
Is why all the western pilots left there?
The owner of Phuket owns many casinos over the Thai Cambodian border.
The VP of Phuket is a retired managment Captain from Thai Airlines.
Partners in crime huh!
Crews have flown overtime twice and this idiot has not paid accordingly as per stated contract or conditions, after they stretched things and operated many times breaking the rules.
Crews should have never done this to begin with.
This Thai VP knows better, but with the money under the table with the Thai DCA he still is in the collection department.
All he can get is the Filipinos and Indonesians because they will accept the regulation and rules breaking concerning flight duty times and flying less than airworthy aircraft.
Western pilots were tired of hearing they would be replaced with one of these at half the costs.
All though some of these Asian pilots were very good and did not deserve the label that the Indian cordinator placed on them.
Even some of them are bailing out now I understand.
Not a work friendly or safe enviroment.
Is why all the western pilots left there?
The owner of Phuket owns many casinos over the Thai Cambodian border.
The VP of Phuket is a retired managment Captain from Thai Airlines.
Partners in crime huh!
Crews have flown overtime twice and this idiot has not paid accordingly as per stated contract or conditions, after they stretched things and operated many times breaking the rules.
Crews should have never done this to begin with.
This Thai VP knows better, but with the money under the table with the Thai DCA he still is in the collection department.
All he can get is the Filipinos and Indonesians because they will accept the regulation and rules breaking concerning flight duty times and flying less than airworthy aircraft.
Western pilots were tired of hearing they would be replaced with one of these at half the costs.
All though some of these Asian pilots were very good and did not deserve the label that the Indian cordinator placed on them.
Even some of them are bailing out now I understand.
Not a work friendly or safe enviroment.
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Jabba,
Don't you know that Allah will protect these people?
How many fatalities has Phucket had anyway?
This pilgrimage thing is important to them. While I really couldn't care less about them limping around the world, it is kinda interesting to me that most of the worlds flakey operations can be traced back to religion. I'm all the time amazed even at the number of praying pilots flying the line. If you ask me, all religion is a mental disorder.
Pilots used to have a physical science background and argue things from a mtbf (mean time between failures) concept. Not anymore! Nowdays your gear-jerker is likely to be a phyc major or home economics grad. Big help when you're trying to ac-certain the likelihood of a sick engine coming apart.
So what exactly are "the faithful" supposed to do? Swim to Mecca? I really don't want them and their TB particulates riding next to me on a real airline. If you're lucky all you're going to get is head lice riding in the back commuting with them and their secret chickens.
Please find a way to get these old whales back in the air and make your peace with your chosen employer. A blown engine or inop CADC for a month is not unheard of in 747 land.
(there, that ought to get this thread going....)
Don't you know that Allah will protect these people?
How many fatalities has Phucket had anyway?This pilgrimage thing is important to them. While I really couldn't care less about them limping around the world, it is kinda interesting to me that most of the worlds flakey operations can be traced back to religion. I'm all the time amazed even at the number of praying pilots flying the line. If you ask me, all religion is a mental disorder.
Pilots used to have a physical science background and argue things from a mtbf (mean time between failures) concept. Not anymore! Nowdays your gear-jerker is likely to be a phyc major or home economics grad. Big help when you're trying to ac-certain the likelihood of a sick engine coming apart.
So what exactly are "the faithful" supposed to do? Swim to Mecca? I really don't want them and their TB particulates riding next to me on a real airline. If you're lucky all you're going to get is head lice riding in the back commuting with them and their secret chickens.
Please find a way to get these old whales back in the air and make your peace with your chosen employer. A blown engine or inop CADC for a month is not unheard of in 747 land.
(there, that ought to get this thread going....)
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Just where pacflyer is religion section written in the Boeing MEL?
Is that listed under the no go or Gods will section of the QRH?
Missed that one.
Perhaps Phuket does not have the Arab/Thai updated changes to these operational regulations ?
Is that listed under the no go or Gods will section of the QRH?
Missed that one.
Perhaps Phuket does not have the Arab/Thai updated changes to these operational regulations ?
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What you on about 411A
this is for 411A
What are you chirping about, you obviously dont know your engines too well and the only thing you seem to know about are Rolls Royce, most problably only the RB211. I suppose you got stuck on the 1 engine variant Tristar and now with your total lack of engine knowledge, or reduced experience think you can bad mouth other motors. I have personnally seen 2 RB211 explode on takeoff, never seen a Pratt explode.
Maybe you need to do some home work on the JT9-7R and 7Q.
Plus the GE is also far more superior to the Rolls.
So concentrate on the topic and not your limited chirping experience OK
What are you chirping about, you obviously dont know your engines too well and the only thing you seem to know about are Rolls Royce, most problably only the RB211. I suppose you got stuck on the 1 engine variant Tristar and now with your total lack of engine knowledge, or reduced experience think you can bad mouth other motors. I have personnally seen 2 RB211 explode on takeoff, never seen a Pratt explode.
Maybe you need to do some home work on the JT9-7R and 7Q.
Plus the GE is also far more superior to the Rolls.
So concentrate on the topic and not your limited chirping experience OK
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What are you chirping about, you obviously dont know your engines too well and the only thing you seem to know about are Rolls Royce, most problably only the RB211.
Actually, not only the RB.211, but the Conway and Dart as well.
Never had any problems in over thirty years, with Rollers.
None, nada, zip.
