Yemeni Capt passed away today at LHR
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Yemeni Capt passed away today at LHR
A Yemeni Capt died of a heart attack at Heathrow today. He was 40 years old.
I was working at a control post near the incident and heard all the radio conversation between the control centre and people on the scene. BAA security were dealing with the incident. The incident happened at control post 8 while the Capt was inside a coach waiting to disembark for security search. Initially I think they called BA's staff ambulance to attend the scene, this was because the internal ambulance was on another call. But surprisingly BA ambulance did no attend, as the patient was not a BA employee. I'm just thinking if BA ambulance could have saved his life tonight by attending straightaway. They were only about 3-5 mins away from the scene. Unfortunatly the wait was too long for the outside ambulance which arrived almost 20 minutes later.
BAA security carried out CPR and tried their utmost to save his life. But they were let down tonight by BA's policy of staff only ambulance.
A sad day at work
I was working at a control post near the incident and heard all the radio conversation between the control centre and people on the scene. BAA security were dealing with the incident. The incident happened at control post 8 while the Capt was inside a coach waiting to disembark for security search. Initially I think they called BA's staff ambulance to attend the scene, this was because the internal ambulance was on another call. But surprisingly BA ambulance did no attend, as the patient was not a BA employee. I'm just thinking if BA ambulance could have saved his life tonight by attending straightaway. They were only about 3-5 mins away from the scene. Unfortunatly the wait was too long for the outside ambulance which arrived almost 20 minutes later.
BAA security carried out CPR and tried their utmost to save his life. But they were let down tonight by BA's policy of staff only ambulance.
A sad day at work
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I'm sorry to hear this. RIP. If this is true there should be heads rolling. I'm sure BA's paramedics would have stopped at nothing to save him - who prevented them leaving? I only hope this is not true. Otherwise what hope have we all if we have an emergency on foreign land and they stick to "our" rules
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I work for BAA and can confirm that he died on the scene. His body was taken to Hillingdon Hospital.
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BA does have their own paramedics at LHR who respond to BA staff emergencies.
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BA does have their own paramedics at LHR who respond to BA staff emergencies.
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411A, I think it will come as no surprise to you to learn than many if not most of the regulars on this site think you are a sorry-assed boor.
Myself, I’ve had the odd chuckle at some of the debate your contrary opinions have engendered. However, can I ask what in the world you’re on about commenting on this thread? Is it a sickness with you? Do you feel compelled to comment on absolutely everything you read here, no matter how inappropriate your comment may be and how little you may know of the subject?
I may have a very inaccurate picture of you, but I picture in one of those closed gate, seniors-only, plastic ‘communities’ planted out in the Arizona desert as far from the real world as you can place yourselves.
I also have a strong suspicion that the rest of the hapless residents in your particular community have been cheering ever since the day you discovered the Internet. Locked in your den annoying the bejeezus out of us and the users of who knows how many other chat rooms and bulletin boards, you’re not bothering them – as I’m sure you must, to distraction, every time you surface from your cave.
Condolences to the unfortunate Yemeni captain’s family.
Myself, I’ve had the odd chuckle at some of the debate your contrary opinions have engendered. However, can I ask what in the world you’re on about commenting on this thread? Is it a sickness with you? Do you feel compelled to comment on absolutely everything you read here, no matter how inappropriate your comment may be and how little you may know of the subject?
I may have a very inaccurate picture of you, but I picture in one of those closed gate, seniors-only, plastic ‘communities’ planted out in the Arizona desert as far from the real world as you can place yourselves.
I also have a strong suspicion that the rest of the hapless residents in your particular community have been cheering ever since the day you discovered the Internet. Locked in your den annoying the bejeezus out of us and the users of who knows how many other chat rooms and bulletin boards, you’re not bothering them – as I’m sure you must, to distraction, every time you surface from your cave.
Condolences to the unfortunate Yemeni captain’s family.
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Andu---
Clearly you missed the point....BA pilots now may well have a problem obtaining timely medical attention down-route, if in LHR only BA staff are looked after. Another shortsighted BA idea perhaps?
Clearly you missed the point....BA pilots now may well have a problem obtaining timely medical attention down-route, if in LHR only BA staff are looked after. Another shortsighted BA idea perhaps?
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Things never are the same as reported but if this case happened as reported BA'S policy handling first aid emergency's for BA staff only is one of the most shamefull things I have ever read. It is also against the the most basic human behaviour to help a person in distress. SHAME ON BA!!!!!!!!
Any american lawyers on the site???
Any american lawyers on the site???
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Andu - I belive you got the point exactly. I find it hard to believe that BA, or anyone else, would not respond to any medical emergency. 411A's suggestion that the rest of the world would retaliate in kind, is repugnant. But then, I don't believe anyone would be surprised by his post -- he revels in the suffering of others.
I pity his employees, if in fact, he is starting an airline.
By the way, you're right on the mark. His part of town is filled with retirees.
I pity his employees, if in fact, he is starting an airline.
By the way, you're right on the mark. His part of town is filled with retirees.
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Am I the only one to suspect the dead hand of the lawyers here? Take the scenario that the BA (or whoever's) ambulance attends a United skipper (who lives in CA, and whose brother in law is an attorney) and the medics get it wrong - huge lawsuit is certain.
It is not unknown for doctors to decline to identify themselves at the scene of an emergency, for fear of litigation.
Stinks doesn't it?
It is not unknown for doctors to decline to identify themselves at the scene of an emergency, for fear of litigation.
Stinks doesn't it?
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For those that think that retaliation in kind down-route would be extreme, consider the following--
Retired BA captain working for a South Asian airline, passing thru customs in JED a few years ago (BA crew tag still attached to suitcase) had the whole contents dumped on the floor. He mentioned that this had happened several times as SV crews were routinely hassled at LHR.
The short-sighted attitude of BA staff will absolutely be noted and acted upon, in a very negative way toward BA crews elsewhere.
Retired BA captain working for a South Asian airline, passing thru customs in JED a few years ago (BA crew tag still attached to suitcase) had the whole contents dumped on the floor. He mentioned that this had happened several times as SV crews were routinely hassled at LHR.
The short-sighted attitude of BA staff will absolutely be noted and acted upon, in a very negative way toward BA crews elsewhere.
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At LHR there is also another private ambulance service that could have attended yesterday. They are called Heathrow Air Ambulance and their paramedics are trained to same standards as London Ambulance if not any better. They are also better equipped and carry the latest medical aids. But unfortunatly they are not called upon either because they are private and cost more than the ordinary ambulance.
How worthless a human life has become?
How worthless a human life has become?
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Is there anyone from BA out there who would care to respond to this thread. Please tell us why BA ambulance did not attend this poor man. What would have happened if it was a BA pax who was in need. Would BA have attended.
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Before we go down another thread of BA slagging can I draw your attention to the initial posting:
"Initially I think they called BA's staff ambulance to attend the scene"
Wouldn't it better to spare the vitriol until someone can confirm that:
a: BA actually own an ambulance.
b: That the crew of such ambulance, if it exists, are actually paramedics and that the ambulance is equipped for emergencies and isnt just a glorified bus for carrying out-patients and walking wounded.
Personally I've never heard of this crack team of BA paramedics, and if they did exist I'm sure we'd hear about them every week in Pravda. Its well known that if a BA pax requires medical assistance at LHR then you have to call a London Ambulance. We don't even have nurses at LHR anymore.
"Initially I think they called BA's staff ambulance to attend the scene"
Wouldn't it better to spare the vitriol until someone can confirm that:
a: BA actually own an ambulance.
b: That the crew of such ambulance, if it exists, are actually paramedics and that the ambulance is equipped for emergencies and isnt just a glorified bus for carrying out-patients and walking wounded.
Personally I've never heard of this crack team of BA paramedics, and if they did exist I'm sure we'd hear about them every week in Pravda. Its well known that if a BA pax requires medical assistance at LHR then you have to call a London Ambulance. We don't even have nurses at LHR anymore.
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Airways One is the call sign for BA ambulance at LHR and they only attend to BA employees.
They are fully trained as paramedics and yes we still have nurses at Heathrow based in Queens Building called the Occupational Health Centre. (they charge ten pounds to your company to check you out!!!)
Airways One is the call sign for BA ambulance at LHR and they only attend to BA employees.
They are fully trained as paramedics and yes we still have nurses at Heathrow based in Queens Building called the Occupational Health Centre. (they charge ten pounds to your company to check you out!!!)
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BA does have an ambulance (unless the cost cuts have got it) but it's based over at the engineering base. Hardly convenient for the central area.
Anyone of you anti-BA twats considered that the BA ambulance might also have been on a job?
There's another private ambulance at LHR (can't remember their name) - did they attend?
Anyone of you anti-BA twats considered that the BA ambulance might also have been on a job?
There's another private ambulance at LHR (can't remember their name) - did they attend?
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To think that such a thing could happen in the "heart of western civilization"...this is just typical of Britain today.I am sure the poor Captain would have received far better in his home country.
It begs the question.."What does it mean to be British today?"Answer:"nothing...zero"
411's comments are quite appropiate...
I would add however,that if the paramedics had got the call,I am sure they would have attended..paramedics are top people and I know they wouldnt forego their Hippocratic oath.At least the paramedics I have met..I dont know about BA's.
It begs the question.."What does it mean to be British today?"Answer:"nothing...zero"
411's comments are quite appropiate...
I would add however,that if the paramedics had got the call,I am sure they would have attended..paramedics are top people and I know they wouldnt forego their Hippocratic oath.At least the paramedics I have met..I dont know about BA's.
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Steady on there "ANDU"...Please do not speak for the rest of us when castigating a fellow contibutor...I send my condolenses and best wishes to the family of the deceased..."411A"...It serves no purpose to speculate on the level of medical care B.A. flight crews might expect arising out of any eventuality in the future...I just hope if it were to happen to me or any crewmember or pax.THE BEST MEDICAL CARE WOULD BE AVAILABLE...