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Old 30th Mar 2001, 08:22
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I`m looking for a new job and have applied to the one above (as well as others mentioned in this forum !!)
I have read all the comments made re. SIA with dismay, sorry guys I hope it gets better soon!
How close is the OZ op. to HQ in Singapore, is the low morale and corrosive politics the same there too?
It seems to me they have been `upfront` re. pay etc and its up to me whether I think a 777 rating is worth the bond. I have an Aussie passport and the idea of a 777 command based in one of the two nicest places in the world is quite appealing!
Is the OZ op. new, or is there someone flying there already who would like to comment? I would appreciate any input.

p.s. By way of an aside to Capt. PPRune.
It has been a long time since I was a regular visitor to your site, congrats on its growth!
A mate suggested I visit to glean info re. possible jobs. now I am hooked, If I dont get my daily fix I`m a mess!
`Course I could give it up any time I wanted. I started with just a quick look and now I`m writing!! But I wont go onto the `hard stuff`... you know slagging off, bitching, back biting like the old junkies I see lying around the place!!!
Thanx.
 
Old 30th Mar 2001, 09:15
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noax2grind

Please be advised that nothing in relation to SIA or SIA Mauritius is "upfront". Get them to send you a contract and then spend a few dollars getting a lawyer to have a look at it. After he has finished choking with mirth, he will advise you not even to bother talking to them again. If however you do misguidedly decide to go ahead and the stardust blows away, you will find that the actuality is somewhat different from the gloss you are presently receiving and like thousands who have trodden the path previously, you will wonder why ever you got yourself into the present mess.
Please similarly be advised that the hundreds of posts which you tell us you have read on Pprune are not made up but are based on truth and are, mostly, sardonically understated.
Finally, you might like to look at either basing in OZ with KAL (in which case you pay OZ tax) or flying out of SEL (in which case you will not pay OZ tax and be home 10 straight days a month). Start salary USD 10,400 per month. Check out with KAL - if you have a B757/767 rating, the 777 rating with Boeing is real cheap.

Best of luck
 
Old 30th Mar 2001, 11:02
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The money is poor, the contract out of the dark ages.
 
Old 30th Mar 2001, 13:54
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Sorry to have wasted your time folks!
Email today, "you have been unsuccessful in your application" I guess 13000hrs (5000 jet command)was not enough, or did they have a flood of people with stardust in their eyes. If so I hope those people will read here.
In the meantime, many thanks to Tosh 26 and Offchocks.
Now I`ve started I guess there is a chance you may see me around again!!!
 
Old 30th Mar 2001, 19:26
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noax2grind
Do not feel lonely mate you are not the only one. Similar experience with exactly the same e-mail message. Maybe SIA made a mistake with the add, should have been 17,000hrs with 13,000hrs command!
Does anybody out there know if the add in Flight was purely a data gather exercise?
Cheers
 
Old 30th Mar 2001, 21:44
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It is said SiA were data gathering to see if the Ansett and Air New Zealand pilots would go for a B scale pay, in exchange for job security and wide-body exposure.

"The floggings will continue until moral improves"
 
Old 31st Mar 2001, 03:34
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Tosh26
SIA aside.
Noted your previous reply and your notes re KAL.
Do you know for a fact whether KAL are still taking guys with only type ratings on 777/747 and no line experience.
I have heard from a few agencies that KAL were only taking rated guys with line experience now.
Interested to hear your comments or comments from others.
Cheers
 
Old 31st Mar 2001, 04:02
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to tosh 26,
just wondering about the KAL 767 positions that mentioned in your post. I checked their website, and alas, no mention of them owning 767. can anyone fill me in
 
Old 31st Mar 2001, 04:22
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Kingbonza
KAL were taking pilots without type ratings last year. However there was a preference (I believe) for B767/757 type rated pilots as the B777 type rating is pretty quick for pilots with B767/757 experience.
No KAL does not have 767/757.
Cheers
 
Old 31st Mar 2001, 06:02
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KAL had a scheme last year where B767 rated pilots were invited to apply for B777 command positions. This scheme was terminated at the end of last year. As far as I am aware the scheme has not been reintroduced. KAL now require a B777 or B744 type rating with command time on type. Hope that helps.
 
Old 31st Mar 2001, 08:48
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Thanks for that.
I wonder where they are getting all the B777/B747 guys form SIA?
Cheers
 
Old 31st Mar 2001, 13:30
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I think SIA would be a very good guess but most are holding off on applying at present whilst they wait for the backpay and July bonus.
 
Old 1st Apr 2001, 03:51
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Can someone tell me if AUD 168,000/year is a good salary to live in OZ?
Thanks....
 
Old 1st Apr 2001, 04:01
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Bokomoko - dpends what you are measuring it against - A$160K = £60K in the UK, or US$95K - that will go a long way in most places in Oz. Cost of living is cheaper than UK/mainland europe.
 
Old 1st Apr 2001, 05:14
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Anti Skid, I have heard though that you can expect to pay 40% tax on that salary, is there any truth to this? If so the salary is not looking so good especially when compared to Qantas and Ansett.
 
Old 1st Apr 2001, 06:43
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You will pay 47% plus.
 
Old 1st Apr 2001, 06:50
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Bokomoko and EasyGo-Lucky.....Aust$168,000 is a good salary in Oz but expect to pay at least $70,000 of that in income tax. Is it a good salary for a B777 captain? NO!



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Old 1st Apr 2001, 13:01
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Offchocks, after tax it really is not too good at all especially when compared to KAL or CAL. Would you or anyone else know how does this salary compare to say an Ansett or Qantas B767 Captains salary?
 
Old 1st Apr 2001, 14:20
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EasyGo-lucky it is about 15% below a QF767 Captains salary (excluding allowances).
You have to consider that you are comparing Captains salary on B767 and B777, the B777 should be more.
I doubt any at QF would move just to earn less and be bonded for 5 years. But then SQ may be targeting those who left these shores a few years ago and want to return.
 
Old 1st Apr 2001, 23:09
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Is SIA data gathering?

The 'save cost lah' crusade is a Singaporean trait with no end.

In the early 90s a letter was put in the mail box of all the expat SIA Captains. This letter was from the DFO, MDVz. The letter stated that due to a policy change, all expat captains are required to sign into a local contract. This event happened shortly after SIA kicked out all the F/Os on expat contracts (they caught up with their local F/O training and no longer needed the expat F/Os on expat contracts).

A couple of the Captains actually fell for it. For the rest, it was an outrage. The company then came out and said, "Oh, that letter was not from the DFO, it was a fake letter and we have informed the police".

Bull pucky, data gathering in stealth form, get a feel, con man tactics, Lee con you.

I was over a friend's house, an expat SIA Captain of 15 yrs+. The phone rang, it was Dudley himself asking him to change to local terms. He told Dudley to sit on it, "if the expat contract goes, I go", replied the Captain. Amazing these people and their focus on money.

SIA, truly a candidate for a modern day tragedy. You have been informed.

Reformasi.
 


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