AIRBUS 17th DEC TELEX 2 DRAFT IBE6463 CRASH UIO
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Originally Posted by YRP
Not to be slow or nothing, but why is that ChristianJ? After 4 minutes, you'd be down at ground level?
Upper right corner of the in-flight reverse envelope is 30,000 ft and 370 kts IAS,
so with about 10,000 ft/min, you can do the sums....
Many aspects of this accident were discussed here:- http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=299739
However, the following safety issues are reiterated:
An IFR approach should not require a duck under maneuver and should therefore plan to use the displaced (ILS) landing distances. Duck under has additional hazards at high altitude due to higher ground speeds and possible increased pitch inertia.
The chart should warn of the difference in the PAPI location; note that the single PAPI installation may not be of any value to the long bodied A340, which if crews follow the visual guidance may have reduced threshold crossing height.
No stable IFR approach should encounter an EGPWS alert or warning; every alert should be heeded.
However, the following safety issues are reiterated:
An IFR approach should not require a duck under maneuver and should therefore plan to use the displaced (ILS) landing distances. Duck under has additional hazards at high altitude due to higher ground speeds and possible increased pitch inertia.
The chart should warn of the difference in the PAPI location; note that the single PAPI installation may not be of any value to the long bodied A340, which if crews follow the visual guidance may have reduced threshold crossing height.
No stable IFR approach should encounter an EGPWS alert or warning; every alert should be heeded.
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The plane has been writen off as hull loss.
The plane had a 30% of damage, and Musini, the Insurance Company wanted to recover it, but Iberia and Airbus has said that the damage is so big, that is better to save all usable elements and avionics that remain intact, and chop in site the rest.
Iberia, as usual, keeps quiet.
The plane had a 30% of damage, and Musini, the Insurance Company wanted to recover it, but Iberia and Airbus has said that the damage is so big, that is better to save all usable elements and avionics that remain intact, and chop in site the rest.
Iberia, as usual, keeps quiet.
