The Economist: Pilot Pay Rising
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Invalid Delete - you think you're so bright, perhaps you might enquire fom some of the people on here who are involved in the insurance business as to what they regard as 'fully qualified on type'. 1,000 hours is the answer. Anything less is likely to attract a stiff increase in premiums for many airlines.
If you think that just because you have a type rating you know it all I think you'd better tell us all your name - so that if any of us here happen to fly with you, we can get off the aircraft. With an attitude like yours, you're frankly a danger to aviation.
If you think that just because you have a type rating you know it all I think you'd better tell us all your name - so that if any of us here happen to fly with you, we can get off the aircraft. With an attitude like yours, you're frankly a danger to aviation.
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Told you, he just has to have the final say!
Hey Guv, why don't you ask your insurance friends about the level of insurance cover on a transport jet aircraft, when you've got that information perhaps you will understand something about pilot responsibilities which far outstretch those of our managers sitting in offices! After all what is the bottom line? Pilot error? Either the job is easy and overpaid or very very responsible and underpaid...which is it?
Hey Guv, why don't you ask your insurance friends about the level of insurance cover on a transport jet aircraft, when you've got that information perhaps you will understand something about pilot responsibilities which far outstretch those of our managers sitting in offices! After all what is the bottom line? Pilot error? Either the job is easy and overpaid or very very responsible and underpaid...which is it?
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Good grief, Sapco2 - do you think that airlines are the only businesses with high third party liabilities? I have a premium level charge card which gives me US$100 million worth of third party liability cover - the chances of ever requiring it are negligible, but it's there if I ever run over the chief of the US Bar Association!
Does this mean that I - and the many thousands of other people who carry this particular card - are something special, as you're claiming? Of course not.
Ships carry similar levels of third party cover; and as you'd expect, oil, chemical and other 'high risk' carriers have even higher levels of liability cover.
Perhaps - as I have suggested - you should ask some of the insurance experts on here precisely what the liability cover is really for? Maybe then you wouldn't make such stupid remarks!
Does this mean that I - and the many thousands of other people who carry this particular card - are something special, as you're claiming? Of course not.
Ships carry similar levels of third party cover; and as you'd expect, oil, chemical and other 'high risk' carriers have even higher levels of liability cover.
Perhaps - as I have suggested - you should ask some of the insurance experts on here precisely what the liability cover is really for? Maybe then you wouldn't make such stupid remarks!
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Why can't you just let it go Guv ??? As for Invalid Delete, well I'd rather be flown by him than you. Nevertheless, if you still chose to get off the A/C, beside being a silly thing to do, I am sure the Subloads would be thankful 
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Oh yes, another point before I go. Stop asking people to provide their names, it is an anonymous forum and people have nothing to prove and certainly not to you nor me. It's you who decided to make yourself known for reasons that belong to you and only you, just bear that in mind will you.
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If you can't save the engine...save the airframe
)Oh yes, another point before I go. Stop asking people to provide their names, it is an anonymous forum and people have nothing to prove and certainly not to you nor me. It's you who decided to make yourself known for reasons that belong to you and only you, just bear that in mind will you.
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If you can't save the engine...save the airframe
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Guvnor
"With an attitude like yours, you're frankly a danger to aviation."
A classic case of the proverbial 'black kettle' methinks. The sooner you wake up to the fact that you are, and are viewed as, an incompetent buffoon of the very highest order, the sooner our industry will see the back of you. So wake up now my son. You are a b****y menace to this industry.
You may rest assured that, thanks to your interminable mutterings upon this website, we all know YOUR name and will all avoid any airline or airliner that has your name associated with it. Further, some of us will always seek to make our views known to the wider public for its own sake.
"With an attitude like yours, you're frankly a danger to aviation."
A classic case of the proverbial 'black kettle' methinks. The sooner you wake up to the fact that you are, and are viewed as, an incompetent buffoon of the very highest order, the sooner our industry will see the back of you. So wake up now my son. You are a b****y menace to this industry.
You may rest assured that, thanks to your interminable mutterings upon this website, we all know YOUR name and will all avoid any airline or airliner that has your name associated with it. Further, some of us will always seek to make our views known to the wider public for its own sake.
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sapco2,
this link is showing who the guvnor is (or isnt)
http://flytristar.tripod.com/article/art06.html
this link is showing who the guvnor is (or isnt)
http://flytristar.tripod.com/article/art06.html
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Guvnor : I do not recall claiming to be smarter / Require less training / knowing it all just because I have a type rating. Quite frankly, I may sue you over these comments (as, taking a leaf out of your book, this would seem to be the professional thing to do.)
As for my 'attitude' - if disagreeing with you means that I have an 'attitude' - then so be it. This does not mean that you would be unsafe flying with me rather than anyone else.
BTW, I have asked around and have not been able to find a UK airline that employs ONLY people that have over 1,000hrs on type. So, according to you that would seem to imply that all airlines would have a 'stiff increase in premiums' all of the time ?
Perhaps you could tell me of a UK airline, if indeed one exists, that only employs 1000hr plus type rated pilots......? I would be very interested in seeing how much the starting salary is !!!!
I have expressed my views on the matter of pilot pay and given an example of how pilots struggle financially during the initial ten years or so, after making a massive investment in ourselves. This was provided to demonstrate the level of committment that people are prepared to go through.
Your opinions as to what YOU personally think on the matter, whilst 'interesting' do not take away the fact that we (pilots) are a highly trained, professional, limited commodity and as such require the levels of other professional salaried professionals in other similar industries. You may find this a bitter pill to swallow but it is unfortunately true.
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Invalid Delete Say "Late Pax : Off with their Heads !!!"
"....OK, well start with their bags then..."
As for my 'attitude' - if disagreeing with you means that I have an 'attitude' - then so be it. This does not mean that you would be unsafe flying with me rather than anyone else.
BTW, I have asked around and have not been able to find a UK airline that employs ONLY people that have over 1,000hrs on type. So, according to you that would seem to imply that all airlines would have a 'stiff increase in premiums' all of the time ?
Perhaps you could tell me of a UK airline, if indeed one exists, that only employs 1000hr plus type rated pilots......? I would be very interested in seeing how much the starting salary is !!!!
I have expressed my views on the matter of pilot pay and given an example of how pilots struggle financially during the initial ten years or so, after making a massive investment in ourselves. This was provided to demonstrate the level of committment that people are prepared to go through.
Your opinions as to what YOU personally think on the matter, whilst 'interesting' do not take away the fact that we (pilots) are a highly trained, professional, limited commodity and as such require the levels of other professional salaried professionals in other similar industries. You may find this a bitter pill to swallow but it is unfortunately true.
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Invalid Delete Say "Late Pax : Off with their Heads !!!"
"....OK, well start with their bags then..."
