Asia's budget airlines safety record
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Metroman,
So, I'm wrong for not trying to bribe to get my AOC or wrong for even thinking of trying? *shrugs* Your kind of reply gives no incentive for anyone to try and do it right... more like a "stamp" to brand everyone here as corrupt and bribeable...
Now tell me, who in Indonesia got their AOC in one day? Even Adam Air who has indications of preferring to bribe someone for US$100k to hush up a US$10k maintenance problem instead of spending the US$10k on the maintenance, even they didn't get their AOC in a day!
Interestingly enough, someone tried to bribe to get an AOC last year, to "the right person" and he was quickly shown the door... and that was with "the right amount of money", even then, he was told to wait for 2 months (the regulatory waiting period), and still got given the full review treatment!
Bribery happens, but an AOC in a day is a bit too far fetched, despite knowing how bad things are in Indonesia!
PK-KAR
So, I'm wrong for not trying to bribe to get my AOC or wrong for even thinking of trying? *shrugs* Your kind of reply gives no incentive for anyone to try and do it right... more like a "stamp" to brand everyone here as corrupt and bribeable...
Now tell me, who in Indonesia got their AOC in one day? Even Adam Air who has indications of preferring to bribe someone for US$100k to hush up a US$10k maintenance problem instead of spending the US$10k on the maintenance, even they didn't get their AOC in a day!
Interestingly enough, someone tried to bribe to get an AOC last year, to "the right person" and he was quickly shown the door... and that was with "the right amount of money", even then, he was told to wait for 2 months (the regulatory waiting period), and still got given the full review treatment!
Bribery happens, but an AOC in a day is a bit too far fetched, despite knowing how bad things are in Indonesia!
PK-KAR
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Point taken - apologies for generalising. However, despite the good ones you refer to, it is true that an inordinate number of Indonesian carriers appear to be high-risk. The records speak for themselves. By the way, I appreciate your safety concerns often expressed very eloquently on these pages.
Point taken - apologies for generalising. However, despite the good ones you refer to, it is true that an inordinate number of Indonesian carriers appear to be high-risk. The records speak for themselves. By the way, I appreciate your safety concerns often expressed very eloquently on these pages.
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SIDSTAR,
Well, the list that has come out from the govt. on the "safety score" system (which is supposedly every quarter), is somewhat representative (the scores, not the category).
I do agree the numbers speak for itself, there's only so much "circumstances" influence the opinions on the facts.
Whiles not all are bad, I do agree that some of them are a joke! How they get away with it is what leads people to tar all with the same brush. I personally find it extremely "funny" that the airlines "self-regulations" produce the near best and the absolute worst in safety... With the official regulators playing catch up on both ends... And even more so now!
PK-KAR
Well, the list that has come out from the govt. on the "safety score" system (which is supposedly every quarter), is somewhat representative (the scores, not the category).
I do agree the numbers speak for itself, there's only so much "circumstances" influence the opinions on the facts.
Whiles not all are bad, I do agree that some of them are a joke! How they get away with it is what leads people to tar all with the same brush. I personally find it extremely "funny" that the airlines "self-regulations" produce the near best and the absolute worst in safety... With the official regulators playing catch up on both ends... And even more so now!
PK-KAR
