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Old 27th Apr 2007, 13:03
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Journo Bashfest

A plane was forced to make an emergency landing at a North East airport after one of its engines failed.
Emergency services were scrambled when the light aircraft's pilot radioed Newcastle Airport shortly after taking off on Thursday night.
The Fokker 27, carrying two people, was forced to return to the airport to attempt a landing.
It managed to land under the power of its second engine and no-one was injured in the incident.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/6598399.stm
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Old 27th Apr 2007, 13:22
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An F-27 - that's some light aircraft... Smaller than a 737 I suppose...!

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Are they allowed to land safely? At least, there must be some documents to be submitted first...
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 02:09
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Thank goodness that second engine didin't take them to the scene of the accident.....Journos what a load of codswallop.
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 16:45
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Thank goodness the "attempted" landing was successful.... otherwise they'd all still be up there.
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 16:56
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What bothers me, is not the usual crap written or spoken about the very field where we are (or supposed to be...) knowledgeable, but much more how much lies, uncertainties or unresearched stuff is fed to us on other subjects?

And these clowns have the reins of power
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 17:04
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Gents, why all the scorn? It may well be common knowledge and second nature to us, but to mere human beings it is worthy of report.
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 17:42
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What bothers me, is not the usual crap written or spoken about the very field where we are (or supposed to be...) knowledgeable, but much more how much lies, uncertainties or unresearched stuff is fed to us on other subjects?
Quite a lot, unfortunately. Other reported stuff where I've either known someone involved or been on the inside of the real events has shown me that there's a lot of dubious 'news' out there. I don't know how much is cock-up and how much is comspiracy though.
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 17:52
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I can't understand why it didn't plunge and just miss a school.........
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 19:40
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What bothers me, is not the usual crap written or spoken about the very field where we are (or supposed to be...) knowledgeable, but much more how much lies, uncertainties or unresearched stuff is fed to us on other subjects?
Are you saying that we get a lot of crap from the news not only regarding airplanes, but also regarding, politics, environment, the "war on terror", society and even football ??

You got to be joking !
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 19:51
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On this side of the pond, it's called the "Constant Nonsense Network" (CNN).
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 20:35
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If only they could get the story wright, in the first place we might be able to think it is correct ,so how much of the news can we believe in 50 percent? a bit like the Met office they can get it wrong and still have a job, so how do these journilist get the story wrong but they still have a joib? if a pilot gets it wrong then they are down the road.
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 20:45
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Yes boys/gals this really makes me laugh, not for the typical journo sensationalist bit, but the way you mock aviation related reports, and yet when it comes to the Beeb investigation into your Ts & Cs you love him like he was your long lost brother. As they say you can't have your cake and.......well in this case you're trying to!
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The bit I don't get is that it isn't that hard to find a pilot and run a story past him to refine terminology etc.. so that you know you have an accurate piece. I love reading about 'engine's stalling' and 'pilots steering their spinning aircraft away from old peoples' homes' but anyone in the trade knows it is just rubbish. I am suprised that in a such a litigious (spelt right?) climate, large news corparations are able to publish stories that are in the least, a bit ropey. Heaven only knows what people like the police must think when they see coverage of their work.
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At least they didn't lose an engine.
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 21:48
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No well done the Pilots on this thread? The dear old Fokker is much more of a handful on one engine than the 757;so well done!
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Gents, why all the scorn? It may well be common knowledge and second nature to us, but to mere human beings it is worthy of report.

As a mere human being/SLF, I find these stories as ridiculous/tedious non events as yourselves. Yes the crew did their job admirably and to the letter of their training and I admire each and every one of you (those that I have met!!!) but..."Plane lands on 1 engine" whoopee! (I remember an F27 doing airshow manouveres for years on one engine(not continuously obviously!!!))If it was an AN225 THEN it'd be newsworthy! It's like a headline in my line of work reading.......
"An Office worker was today made to make an emergency forced visit to the stationary cupboard. The drama unfolded when Mr Arthur Pewty was made aware by his stationary engineer that their 2 page letter printed in triplicate required 3 staples when there were only 2 in the staplers chamber. The emergency approach to the cupboard was made more hazardous by the office worker having to violently swerve past a National Childrens Home (collection box) and avoiding a container holding as much as 3 gallons of drinking water. An eyewitness said he heard a loud bang and saw a ball of flame and smoke before the stapler made a safe landing in a confidential waste bucket. Continuous coverage available on SkyNews and Fox.



These papers/news networks need something to fill their pages/airtime with things other than Dianas death /Iraq/ jordans tits etc, so anything will do. Just look at the coverage given to the recent "earthquake" in Kent where 2 chimneys tragically plummeted to their demise. 6 HOURS CONTINUOUS COVERAGE ON SKY!!! I think the Chinese one that cost tens of thousands of lives had about 20 minutes on the evening news.
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Old 30th Apr 2007, 00:28
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Best post I've seen on here for a long time.

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Old 30th Apr 2007, 07:50
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I don't share the admiration for the crew of that F27, although I know that an F27 can be a challenge (Reverting to another thread, an F27 engine shut-down was the only thing that made Alan Bodger put out his cigar while flying one)....

Nowhere does it say that they had to wrestle with the controls. What did they think they were doing? Wrestling with the controls is part of any emergency procedure. Didn't they know that? Are modern crews being properly trained?

We need a Public Enquiry.
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wrestling with the controls

Yes, they must, and heroically so; while we mere mortals sit in the back and wrestle with our sandwich in extremely confined spaces on these F....rs.
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