Your landing times are.....
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looks like that 737 footage is just a standard approach into Kennedy or Newark. Nothing spectacular there. Ever seen footage of approaches into Washington National or Kai Tak? (closed now). But both have or had sharp turns very close to touch down.
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Give the rookies a break...being able to depth percieve for flare and hold off on approach takes a good deal of experience. I wonder how they would cope with x wind in the mix too........made me smile and no real harm done.
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Oh! I can’t believe my eyes!
I made my first solo at that school at that place 17 years ago! Hopefully I was lucky to cope with such bounces (my P2 hadn’t make his first solo on L-410 yet, but was an experienced glider )
The sad thing is that officer on the mike was continuously making suggestions to “hold the yoke” when it was obvious that only GA could save the situation.
As for IL-76MF: Demo flight with test pilots on board and runway about 5000 meters (!). Keep in mind that IL-76 was designed for grass runways
I made my first solo at that school at that place 17 years ago! Hopefully I was lucky to cope with such bounces (my P2 hadn’t make his first solo on L-410 yet, but was an experienced glider )
The sad thing is that officer on the mike was continuously making suggestions to “hold the yoke” when it was obvious that only GA could save the situation.
As for IL-76MF: Demo flight with test pilots on board and runway about 5000 meters (!). Keep in mind that IL-76 was designed for grass runways
When I trained in the RAF we did our first solo on the Vickers Varsity with a fellow student from the junior course in the right seat. I don't recall anyone having a problem.
Later I went to the HS660 Argosy in Transport Command and we often flew training flights with an F/O in both seats and not a Captain in sight. The F/Es must have been made of steel!
Later I went to the HS660 Argosy in Transport Command and we often flew training flights with an F/O in both seats and not a Captain in sight. The F/Es must have been made of steel!
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First Solos
When I was in the RAF, one of the flying tours I did was on the Shackleton. It was a Mark 2 converted for AEW, but after the fifth flight we (two new co-pilots) were sent off by ourselves to do five circuits each, the last of which was asymmetric. In the Shackleton that meant actually shutting the engine down as opposed to setting zero thrust as is done in the civilian training world. Somebody must have had a lot of faith to send two guys with not much more than six or seven hours each to practice landing a 70000 pound taildragger by ourselves.
Although perhaps not quite in the same league, the Buccaneer never did have a two stick variant, so evey pilot who flew it did a first solo on his first ever flight in the front seat of the aircraft.
Although perhaps not quite in the same league, the Buccaneer never did have a two stick variant, so evey pilot who flew it did a first solo on his first ever flight in the front seat of the aircraft.
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Almost certainly too fast in that Let. No evidence of stuck elavator as prooved by the attempted flare.
Scary. Seen PIO's like that for real, and it's amazing how violent they can get.
Scary. Seen PIO's like that for real, and it's amazing how violent they can get.