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Old 9th Dec 2007, 13:04
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> report in the same paper described how a passenger on one of the
> platforms at Tokyo station was hit on the head by a bolt falling off
> the roof yesterday. Does something happen to bolts in Japan in Spring?

Thats what you get when a journalist googles for "bolt+fell+off+japan". I'm surprised they didn't mention it was a bolt caused this incident...

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../29/2003376292
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Old 9th Dec 2007, 16:39
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I'd be curious to see the logic behind the conclusion that the bolt was omitted in production; I don't know how you could conclude that a part was omitted at some specific time in history from the fact that it's missing now. All you can conclude is that it was omitted at some previous time.
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I'd be curious to see the logic behind the conclusion that the bolt was omitted in production; I don't know how you could conclude that a part was omitted at some specific time in history from the fact that it's missing now. All you can conclude is that it was omitted at some previous time.
Well if the bolt hole and faces had no fretting similar to other similar installations then one might conclude that it/she was still a virgin since birth.
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I suppose so.

And I guess also if you could prove there'd been no access to the area since delivery, you could conclude the area was as-delivered.
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Old 9th Dec 2007, 17:47
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Found a slightly more detailed news reports. Hats off to lomapaseo's predictive skills

The bolt that should have been there has not been found, while there was no trace that the bolt had scraped the cylindrical support part called bushing, they said.
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Old 9th Dec 2007, 17:53
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An encouragement to do so is that the runway is approximately 2 feet under one's backside!
Great line Rainboe!

Does anyone remember a DC-4 many years ago, landing with a hung nose wheel? Apparently the cockpit floor wore down to the rudder pedals in the subsequent journey along the runway.

Huck, I had an unsafe nosewheel indication on the G1 once. We could see the gear was extended by the reflection in the spinners, but it wasn't locked. Did everything according to the book, and it still wouldn't lock into pace. By this time dispatch was in contact with Gulfstream in SAV, so I suggested we do a touch and go and bang the nosewheel on the runway to lock it into place. They said go ahead it's your airplane. Result, FSI incorporated the pigboat 'bang the nosewheel on the runway if all else fails" procedure in the training syllabus.
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Old 9th Dec 2007, 21:25
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I was on crash crew duty at RAAF Richmond in 1961, when a Canberra could not get his nose gear down.

Wind straight along runway was 35 knots, a bit unusual for those who know the place.

Canberra flew over fairly low and blew of the navigators hatch, but then he decided to stay.

Crash crew chief briefed us, that he was of the apinion that we could save the situation. Every bod was grabbed as was an air bag which was partly inflated. It was not needed because the wind increased a little more.

As the aircraft landed the pilot was instructed to keep the nose up for as long as he could. The nose was still up when she had slowed to walking pace and about 25 of us scrabled up on the tailplane.

Engines shut down and crew got out and the nose was still up. The nose gear was manually extended, and then one at a time we got off the tailplane and when the nose started to fall back we stayed on until it touched the ground so gently.

Thank goodness for the wind.

Aircraft was delayed whilst a new hatch was flown down from its base.

Cause turned out to be a locking pin that fell out for reasons that could be established.

Nice to see good airmanship incidents all the time.

Always too easy to blame the pilot, which in my opinion is all too easy, and the cowards way out.

Regards

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Fantastic!
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Old 11th Dec 2007, 09:40
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landing

amazing captain landing,

that will show how a plane is landed without front gear,

10 out of 10 , fantastic, no words, just perfect, well done
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I'll just stick in my twopenny worth to the well-deserved torrent of praise. Lovely job.
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