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Old 21st Feb 2007, 21:13
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'Air scare as jet wheels burst'

The Sun's headline not mine I hasten to add.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007080474,00.html
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Old 21st Feb 2007, 21:43
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Hyperbole as tabloid publishes story!
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Old 21st Feb 2007, 21:48
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that relates to this thread, right?


http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=251060&page=7
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Old 21st Feb 2007, 21:57
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ARGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!

What a load of crap? Who reads this dung? I certainly hope we do not chop down trees in some nice green forest to have stinky slop like this printed on it?

"It climbed up sharply......to avoid crashing....." er...it did a go-around? a missed approach? an Overshoot? no....WAIT......IT CLIMBED SHARPLEY LIKE A ROCKET FROM A LAUNCH PAD TO AVOID THE CATYLCLISMIC COLLISSSION THAT WAS INEVITABLE DUE TO THE PRESSURIZED TUBES OF AIR DISINTERGRATING IN A GREAT BALL OF FLAME, SMOKE AND BITS, REDERING THE STRICKEN CRAFT UNCONTROLLABLE ON THE CONCRETE SURFACE, AND LEAVING IT TO RESORT TO THE EMERGENCY MANUAL SYSTEM AND MAKING THE SKY PILOT A HERO TO THE MANY THOUSANDS OF CITIZENS HE SAVED ON THAT GLORIOUS DAY OF FREEDOM, AND HEROISM"



Think I could apply for a job as a sun reporter??????
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No, you use too many long words to be a Sun reporter
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Old 21st Feb 2007, 22:11
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No you just sound like a prick.

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not the thronomister water folder failure again!
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Old 22nd Feb 2007, 08:26
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Language, language, Felix !

Ontariotech is right to vent his sarcasm, albeit a little extreme.

The professionals on this (our) forum are getting a little peeved at some of the overdramatic rubbish which is regularly presented as news in the gutter press, particularly by an obviously-uninformed female junior.

00.03 ??? Shouldn't you be in bed, ready to study again tomorrow......and leave the flying business to the professional guys who have to cope with whatever is thrown at us, day after long day ?

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Old 22nd Feb 2007, 21:43
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Wow! Now THAT was a close one I guess some (most?) of the passengers will testify (no doubt with the help of a juicy backhander from The Sun ) to have seen their life flash in front of their eyes "It was a really narrow miss"... how would he know? What was the actual minimum separation?

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Old 23rd Feb 2007, 08:57
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Alas, it's not just the Sun. Bloomberg, that supposedly sober provider of financial news, is now seemingly going into the ASI calibration business:
The plane was moving more quickly than normal as it landed
and hit the ground hard, according to a Bloomberg reporter who
was aboard. Passengers felt at least one tire blow, and the plane
veered to the left and then the right before coming to a halt
about 10 yards (10 meters) short of the landing lights at the end
of the runway and 200 yards from the water of the docks, he said.
At least the article didn't mention how many yards away the nearest primary school/hospital was.
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Old 23rd Feb 2007, 09:53
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How close to the end of the runway does a normal landing take an aircraft? I know LCY is on the short side and is used by specific types, so one would expect it to be a lot closer than using those types on a longer runway. Given the layout at LCY, I assume it is necessary to go to the end at the Eastern side just to turn around.

Good old media, doing a great job with the molehills.
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Old 23rd Feb 2007, 10:09
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With the greatest of respect to all of you professional pilots, I suggest you are missing one blindingly obvious trueism that is obviouslt not taught at professional pilots school:

perceptions equal reality!

It matters not that your hard landing/ barrel roll/ whatever is perfectly safe/ within company SOP's/ regulations whatever. if you continue to scare the bejesus out of your customers, no matter how ignorant and uninformed they are, you will ultimately work your self out of a job.

As a simple PPl today i watched a circling NDB approach. Could i tell the difference between this and a cowboy approach? No! Until I asked.

For Christ sake, if you want to continue in your profession, give your customers a little respect.
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Old 23rd Feb 2007, 12:05
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Maybe reading wasn't one of your better skills

the criticism is aimed at the press


not the customers
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Old 23rd Feb 2007, 12:20
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1199m = 1 mile ? must be true, great I,m gonna use that factor of 1.34 to impress all the girls in future. Oh and note to self,stay away from those manual brakes even if they are the only ones I have.
What quality !
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PS 10,000 pax a day - ****!
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Old 23rd Feb 2007, 12:54
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YesTAM - "Perceptions equal reality" - not in commercial aviation they don't! Accident/Incident investigation is all about facts; that's what the AAIB, NTSB, BEA etc are for.

Most posters here do not mind passengers relating their experiences to the press; what we object to is the press spicing it all up with some juicy headlines, end-of-the-world (but details-less) testimonies and simplistic drawings - as to explain where the tyres are on an aircraft

Since the BAe 146 series has no reverse thrust, in case of autobrake failure, I would indeed expect the PF to use (heavy) manual braking!

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Old 23rd Feb 2007, 13:13
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Originally Posted by llondel
Given the layout at LCY, I assume it is necessary to go to the end at the Eastern side just to turn around.
No, you can turn around within the length of the runway. Happens all the time otherwise LCY couldn't keep the movement rate up when on easterlies.
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Old 23rd Feb 2007, 14:35
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Thanks for that - I've seen runway U-turns at other airports involving A320/B737 but I've never been to LCY so don't know the width with regard to the aircraft that use it.
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Old 23rd Feb 2007, 16:57
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There is so much whinging on this site about journo this and journo that, (and by the way it's akin to footballers complaining to the ref - it will achieve nothing), that I'm begining to suspect theat some journo's write up a story with even more shock/horror wording than normal JUST so they can log on here for a giggle at you lot wetting your knickers!
You can't do anything about it so why not give up on all the hand wringing?
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Old 24th Feb 2007, 08:54
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I remember, the 146 does not have autobrake.
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