Ramp Landings - Coming soon to a Terminal Near You (Kerean Air Taxiway Landing)
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Exactly, anyone remember the Continental 757 back in October that landed on the taxiway in Newark, and thats not an airport you would ever want land on a taxiway...
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=NYC07IA015&rpt=p
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=NYC07IA015&rpt=p
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Well, considering the winds at the time were something like 070/40kts, he did a pretty darn good job to touch down in the middle of the taxiway!
But in all seriousness, the Captain involved is a very nice guy and doesn't deserve this crap. Yeah, he made a mistake, a stupid mistake, and these things should not happen. For those of you with heads the size of hot air balloons who think this could never happen to them, or that this happened because "it's Korean", that's just bull . A little research would show that at SEA alone, there were 6 cases from 1999 of aircraft landing on taxiway T instead of 16R .
But in all seriousness, the Captain involved is a very nice guy and doesn't deserve this crap. Yeah, he made a mistake, a stupid mistake, and these things should not happen. For those of you with heads the size of hot air balloons who think this could never happen to them, or that this happened because "it's Korean", that's just bull . A little research would show that at SEA alone, there were 6 cases from 1999 of aircraft landing on taxiway T instead of 16R .
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Well, considering the winds at the time were something like 070/40kts, he did a pretty darn good job to touch down in the middle of the taxiway!
He didn't do good job at all, wind or no wind, as he touched down on the taxiway and not the runway. I doubt the captain involved thinks it was "a pretty darn good job".
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Well, considering the winds at the time were something like 070/40kts, he did a pretty darn good job to touch down in the middle of the taxiway!
He didn't do good job at all, wind or no wind, as he touched down on the taxiway and not the runway. I doubt the captain involved thinks it was "a pretty darn good job".
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Well, considering the winds at the time were something like 070/40kts, he did a pretty darn good job to touch down in the middle of the taxiway!
He didn't do good job at all, wind or no wind, as he touched down on the taxiway and not the runway. I doubt the captain involved thinks it was "a pretty darn good job".
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Well, considering the winds at the time were something like 070/40kts, he did a pretty darn good job to touch down in the middle of the taxiway!
He didn't do good job at all, wind or no wind, as he touched down on the taxiway and not the runway. I doubt the captain involved thinks it was "a pretty darn good job".
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FlyGuy,
Whilst I do agree that Korean have been out of the headlines for a while, there was a time when they were perpetually in them.
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Does anyone recall the time a BIA MD80 landed on the taxiway at Gatwick and a British Airtours 737 taxiing out went onto the grass in an evasive manoeuvre?
If i remember correctly, the emergency runway was in use (08L) whilst the main runway was being resurfaced. I think the poor sod in the LHS was on command checks too, with a training captain / checker beside him.
Whilst I do agree that Korean have been out of the headlines for a while, there was a time when they were perpetually in them.
Question:
Does anyone recall the time a BIA MD80 landed on the taxiway at Gatwick and a British Airtours 737 taxiing out went onto the grass in an evasive manoeuvre?
If i remember correctly, the emergency runway was in use (08L) whilst the main runway was being resurfaced. I think the poor sod in the LHS was on command checks too, with a training captain / checker beside him.
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And for something different - takeoff's on taxiways
Is this just an Asian thing...I recall the Taiwanese have had a couple of spectacular takeoffs from ANC (PANC):
China Airlines (CI) A340 departure from TXY K (249 deg M) instead of RWY 32 K intersection (322 deg M).
EVA Air (BR) MD11F departure from TXY Y (142 deg M) instead of RWY 32 (322 deg M).
China Airlines (CI) A340 departure from TXY K (249 deg M) instead of RWY 32 K intersection (322 deg M).
EVA Air (BR) MD11F departure from TXY Y (142 deg M) instead of RWY 32 (322 deg M).
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According to The Seoul Times the two Pilots have been sacked. The article can be read here......
http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST...d.php?idx=4738
http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST...d.php?idx=4738
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No Go-around ordered !
Taken from the report
"The runway is equipped with a radio beacon at one end. However, the plane came in from the opposite direction, toward the end without the beacon. The control tower noticed that the aircraft was heading for the taxiway just before it touched down, but allowed it to proceed."
Of course, none of us were there and we can't definitively know when the tower controller realised the aircraft was going to land on the taxiway, however, unless he's on the ground with the weight switches made, it's really never TOO late to go-around. The last thing that the contoller will be doing at that late stage is ensuring that the taxiway is completely clear for an approach and landing to the correct bit of paved surface. Should he have told the guy to go-around ?
A few years ago, I went around from approximately 40 feet and although it's not a desirable state of affairs, it's better than breaking (potentially) an aircraft and lots of people !
I wonder if the controller is implicated or facing a disciplinary procedure. I'm not saying he should because it all depends on when he realised what was about to happen. Perhaps he did a good job because of his awareness of what was happening on the airport as a whole. Perhaps he was completely gobstruck, closed his eyes and couldn't speak !!
Anyway, they got away with it as a group of people landing on a taxiway. But, it's still almost NEVER too late to go-around !
There but for the grace of God etc etc.
"The runway is equipped with a radio beacon at one end. However, the plane came in from the opposite direction, toward the end without the beacon. The control tower noticed that the aircraft was heading for the taxiway just before it touched down, but allowed it to proceed."
Of course, none of us were there and we can't definitively know when the tower controller realised the aircraft was going to land on the taxiway, however, unless he's on the ground with the weight switches made, it's really never TOO late to go-around. The last thing that the contoller will be doing at that late stage is ensuring that the taxiway is completely clear for an approach and landing to the correct bit of paved surface. Should he have told the guy to go-around ?
A few years ago, I went around from approximately 40 feet and although it's not a desirable state of affairs, it's better than breaking (potentially) an aircraft and lots of people !
I wonder if the controller is implicated or facing a disciplinary procedure. I'm not saying he should because it all depends on when he realised what was about to happen. Perhaps he did a good job because of his awareness of what was happening on the airport as a whole. Perhaps he was completely gobstruck, closed his eyes and couldn't speak !!
Anyway, they got away with it as a group of people landing on a taxiway. But, it's still almost NEVER too late to go-around !
There but for the grace of God etc etc.