Q200 loses wheel at NQY
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Q200 loses wheel at NQY
From a visual report of a qualified aircraft ground operations trainer who witnessed an incident at NQY on 14/12 when one of the MLG wheels departed the a/c on take off. A/c overflew the tower for a visual to determine damage and after a suitable time circling, landed safely.
Pax and 37 SLF evacuated safely with no injuries.
NQY is under control of RAF St Mawgan who provided all the usual safety support but no bus for the pax back to the terminal. Most hitched rides in the executive SUV and the ramp tractors!..
It was reported by the ramp handlers that the centre of the wheel was retreived in a damaged condition and the wheel locking device was in pieces. Their immediate view was that corrossion was the cause. Fortunately, the wheel brake stayed with the a/c.
BBC got a film crew on site soon after but what went was ultimately transmitted was unseen by me, but we wont go there.....
Question is as to whether the uniformed opinion as to cause is ultimately right or not. Anybody any the wiser?
Pax and 37 SLF evacuated safely with no injuries.
NQY is under control of RAF St Mawgan who provided all the usual safety support but no bus for the pax back to the terminal. Most hitched rides in the executive SUV and the ramp tractors!..
It was reported by the ramp handlers that the centre of the wheel was retreived in a damaged condition and the wheel locking device was in pieces. Their immediate view was that corrossion was the cause. Fortunately, the wheel brake stayed with the a/c.
BBC got a film crew on site soon after but what went was ultimately transmitted was unseen by me, but we wont go there.....
Question is as to whether the uniformed opinion as to cause is ultimately right or not. Anybody any the wiser?
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I viewed the BBC coverage the evening of the incident. Some pictures of the landing gear minus wheel taken from some distance (viewers were informed where to look for leg minus one wheel).
Airport offical read out a statement inline with the above comments........No hype, etc, etc.
The fact that viewers had to be told which leg to look at to see the missing wheel probably summed up the incident - potentially serious but all pax safe and aircraft undamaged
Airport offical read out a statement inline with the above comments........No hype, etc, etc.
The fact that viewers had to be told which leg to look at to see the missing wheel probably summed up the incident - potentially serious but all pax safe and aircraft undamaged
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Q200 loses wheel at NQY
From a visual report of a qualified aircraft ground operations trainer who witnessed an incident at NQY on 14/12 when one of the MLG wheels departed the a/c on take off. A/c overflew the tower for a visual to determine damage and after a suitable time circling, landed safely.
Pax and 37 SLF evacuated safely with no injuries.
From a visual report of a qualified aircraft ground operations trainer who witnessed an incident at NQY on 14/12 when one of the MLG wheels departed the a/c on take off. A/c overflew the tower for a visual to determine damage and after a suitable time circling, landed safely.
Pax and 37 SLF evacuated safely with no injuries.
Glad to hear knowone was hurt though.
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Q200 loses wheel at Newquay
Air South West operates (5) Dash-8 300 series. None of them are Q (noise cancelling) types.
The wheel left the aircraft (probably) due to a bearing failure and severe damage caused by that. The remains showed no sign of having corroded.
At present Flybe are not using Dash-8 Q400s on a regular basis from Newquay/ St Mawgan. In fact I've yet to see one there.
The brake unit did remain, but, I understand, the aircraft was brought to a halt without brakes, by propellor discing.
Just trying to clear up one or two inaccuracies!
The wheel left the aircraft (probably) due to a bearing failure and severe damage caused by that. The remains showed no sign of having corroded.
At present Flybe are not using Dash-8 Q400s on a regular basis from Newquay/ St Mawgan. In fact I've yet to see one there.
The brake unit did remain, but, I understand, the aircraft was brought to a halt without brakes, by propellor discing.
Just trying to clear up one or two inaccuracies!
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And the aircraft was back in the air again today.
The wheel ended up in the grass and was retrieved. Somewhere in the grass lies the contents of the bearing cage! Don't think we'll see them again!
The wheel ended up in the grass and was retrieved. Somewhere in the grass lies the contents of the bearing cage! Don't think we'll see them again!
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My error, of course it was a Q300 - should have rechecked b4 posted.
As to the ramp handlers assertion, these guys are non tech so their opinion is open to question. However, a bearing failure is still going to cause questions within ASW
As to the ramp handlers assertion, these guys are non tech so their opinion is open to question. However, a bearing failure is still going to cause questions within ASW
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Many years ago a Dan Air 748 departed Jersey and one of the nose legs wheels came off on departure in the dark.
The crew knew nothing until the nose chock was put in place when the aircraft shut down at Bournemouth forty minutes after take off.
Is this why they have two wheels on each leg??
The crew knew nothing until the nose chock was put in place when the aircraft shut down at Bournemouth forty minutes after take off.
Is this why they have two wheels on each leg??
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Captain who was told by BA that they would never ever be suitable for command.
Funny how people like to take every chance to bash BA. I have an old friend, a certain lady who was told she would never get a command with a holiday charter company she worked for. She left, joined BA and retired as a B757/B767 Captain.
Funny how people like to take every chance to bash BA. I have an old friend, a certain lady who was told she would never get a command with a holiday charter company she worked for. She left, joined BA and retired as a B757/B767 Captain.
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conspiracist,
I guess the people of PLY and NQY, probably wouldnt really want your company anyway, so no loss there!
Now for some facts, (as seen from the home of the pasty)
As an ex Brymon guy, based in PLY, i can asure you that any pilot who is flying for WOW as a skipper is almost certainly an EXTREMELY competant aviator. Landing in PLY is not for the fainthearted and a pilot not up to scratch would be very quickly weeded out. Many of the management guys from BRY/BACX are still working at WOW, and I very much doubt that standards have slipped!
As for their equipment average fleet age is less than 15years (standing by for correction
), whilst i was there they were maintained at PLY and BRS to a very high standard, by some extremely competant guys.
Sh*t happens, and very ocassionally bits do come off a/c, but no one was injured, and the plane was flying the next day, hardly news worthy, and certainly not deserving of obuse of there ops/pilots/equipment/maintenance.
PB
edited for correction, due to my laziness in not checking fleet age
would i travel with my family down to Plymouth with this person in commmand. Would i F$ŁK
Now for some facts, (as seen from the home of the pasty)
As an ex Brymon guy, based in PLY, i can asure you that any pilot who is flying for WOW as a skipper is almost certainly an EXTREMELY competant aviator. Landing in PLY is not for the fainthearted and a pilot not up to scratch would be very quickly weeded out. Many of the management guys from BRY/BACX are still working at WOW, and I very much doubt that standards have slipped!
As for their equipment average fleet age is less than 15years (standing by for correction
), whilst i was there they were maintained at PLY and BRS to a very high standard, by some extremely competant guys.Sh*t happens, and very ocassionally bits do come off a/c, but no one was injured, and the plane was flying the next day, hardly news worthy, and certainly not deserving of obuse of there ops/pilots/equipment/maintenance.
PB
edited for correction, due to my laziness in not checking fleet age
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WOW have Dash-8-311's and I believe the generic name for all de Havilland Dash-8's are either Q200/300 or 400 now that its Bombardier- most are fitted with a cabin noise and vibration supression system which isn't all that reliable anyway....;-) and I could never tell the difference!
Yes I can say that the landing in PLH isn't for the faint hearted and more of a controlled crash especially in crosswinds and low cloud and drizzle - and I've done the DH7 DH8 and once on a JEA Shorts 360 mail run! - some pilots used to dread it!
When LCY opened, PLH was the only other airport in the world with a certified 7.5 degree ILS, which doesn't sound much when the normal glideslope is 3 degrees but does make hell of a difference.
What about DH7 on its way into CDG and the leading edge boot detaches and lands in a back garden in suburbia and a panel coming off the tail on a Dash-8 on its way to NQY. Nothing new - bits do fall of planes just like any other mode of transport! Thankfully not that often!
How has a wheel detaching got anything to do with the competence of the Commander or anyone else for that matter? confused . With the pounding they take Im suprised it doesn't happen more often!
Yes I can say that the landing in PLH isn't for the faint hearted and more of a controlled crash especially in crosswinds and low cloud and drizzle - and I've done the DH7 DH8 and once on a JEA Shorts 360 mail run! - some pilots used to dread it!
When LCY opened, PLH was the only other airport in the world with a certified 7.5 degree ILS, which doesn't sound much when the normal glideslope is 3 degrees but does make hell of a difference.
What about DH7 on its way into CDG and the leading edge boot detaches and lands in a back garden in suburbia and a panel coming off the tail on a Dash-8 on its way to NQY. Nothing new - bits do fall of planes just like any other mode of transport! Thankfully not that often!
How has a wheel detaching got anything to do with the competence of the Commander or anyone else for that matter? confused . With the pounding they take Im suprised it doesn't happen more often!
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