Long haul or what!!
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A Cat will fly between 20 and 24 hours on the normal fuel tanks, depending on power settings.
Longest flight I ever did was 19:10 in the Arctic in 1968....lots of time for sexual thoughts just to pass the time.
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It's just much fun to fly through a bridge as under one.
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Longest flight I ever did was 19:10 in the Arctic in 1968....lots of time for sexual thoughts just to pass the time.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...h/aaf4e977.jpg
It's just much fun to fly through a bridge as under one.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...h/NR3R3546.jpg
One more:
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Chuck E.
The ULR rest rules which SIA use on these flights give the crew considerably better rest than is achieved on normal long haul sectors by all accounts. I addition, as someone pointed out, they have lots of time off since they get to the flight time limitation quite quickly and they also receive extra pay for flying over 16 hour sectors. I guess it's horses for course but the guys who are doing it seemed to be quite happy.
As regards SLF getting bored on such long flights, anyone who has experienced SIA's IFE will be able to dismiss that idea: it's awesome with over 400 choices and individual video on demand and laptop power points in every seat. Now my last trip on BA longhaul was boring. How old is that IFE system?
As regards SLF getting bored on such long flights, anyone who has experienced SIA's IFE will be able to dismiss that idea: it's awesome with over 400 choices and individual video on demand and laptop power points in every seat. Now my last trip on BA longhaul was boring. How old is that IFE system?
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Me think those 400 choices must be available on the flightdeck as well. Maybe those modern eastern people can swap the PFD display with some good oldfashion western movies when flying over the states, and some fancy porn when passing Europe 
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Yeah Scroggs, we know who you are you scruffy git!! I guess Ascension must have looked pretty good out the window after so long in the loominum tube! I was on another C130 squadron at the time but I was there with you! Happy days huh!! Not.....
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Yeh, tell me about it. I'm 6ft 5 and that's not fun in any kind of seat, bus, first, whatever
It's bad enough on 1-2 hour flight, impagine 18hrs.
If you think about it, if the airline put animals (a dog or cat) in the seat, made them check-in, line-up on the airbridge etc, etc they'd be busted for crulety to animals. But hey ! it's only pax so treat em how you like !!!!
It's bad enough on 1-2 hour flight, impagine 18hrs.
If you think about it, if the airline put animals (a dog or cat) in the seat, made them check-in, line-up on the airbridge etc, etc they'd be busted for crulety to animals. But hey ! it's only pax so treat em how you like !!!!
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Well, the total flight duration records are probably still held by airships as they moved very slow, however they had superior crew rest facilities and enough crew on them in the first place 
Searching through the FAI database i found some pretty impressive records, over 55 hours in a single seat glider plane for example or over 57 hours in a double seat glider plane. If i remember correctly the FAI ceased to accept duration flight record applications in the 50ies as they considered them as too dangerous.
Searching through the FAI database i found some pretty impressive records, over 55 hours in a single seat glider plane for example or over 57 hours in a double seat glider plane. If i remember correctly the FAI ceased to accept duration flight record applications in the 50ies as they considered them as too dangerous.
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55 hrs 17 mins unrefuelled
This was the world record holder for unrefuelled piston-engined endurance for over 40 YEARS until Burt Rutan's Voyager circumnavigated the globe:
"In late September 1946 a new milestone in aviation history was set, an 11,236-mile non-stop, non-refueled flight from Perth, Australia to Columbus, Ohio. The plane, a US Navy Neptune patrol aircraft, manufactured by Lockheed and nicknamed "Truculent Turtle," was specially fitted with extra gasoline tanks to test its capacity for long-distance flight.
The crew of four made the trip in 55 hours and 17 minutes, at an average speed of 204 mph. Their only passenger was a young kangaroo named Joey, a gift from the Australian people to the National Zoo in Washington."
http://www.geocities.com/lucktam/awa...1.htm#tructurt
"In late September 1946 a new milestone in aviation history was set, an 11,236-mile non-stop, non-refueled flight from Perth, Australia to Columbus, Ohio. The plane, a US Navy Neptune patrol aircraft, manufactured by Lockheed and nicknamed "Truculent Turtle," was specially fitted with extra gasoline tanks to test its capacity for long-distance flight.
The crew of four made the trip in 55 hours and 17 minutes, at an average speed of 204 mph. Their only passenger was a young kangaroo named Joey, a gift from the Australian people to the National Zoo in Washington."
http://www.geocities.com/lucktam/awa...1.htm#tructurt
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Trust me, if I could get from LHR to SYD in one hop, I'd be on it, even in economy.
Trust me, if I could get from LHR to SYD in one hop, I'd be on it, even in economy.
But I admit that I'm most probably in the minority.
I have here the airship timetable for Germany - South America in 1939.
Depart Frankfurt Wednesday evening, arrive Recife, Brasil Saturday evening. On to Rio (possibly the same crew) to arrive Rio Sunday evening.
And if you thought that was long enough, the return took an EXTRA day.
It's 4153 nm Recife to Frankfurt so for the 4 days of the eastbound trip they averaged 43 knots.
Depart Frankfurt Wednesday evening, arrive Recife, Brasil Saturday evening. On to Rio (possibly the same crew) to arrive Rio Sunday evening.
And if you thought that was long enough, the return took an EXTRA day.
It's 4153 nm Recife to Frankfurt so for the 4 days of the eastbound trip they averaged 43 knots.
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I believe there was one occasion when, due to civil unrest at the destination, the captain pointed his Zeppelin into wind while some way off the South American coast, reduced speed, and sat there for a couple of days until the commotion was over.
I believe there was one occasion when, due to civil unrest at the destination, the captain pointed his Zeppelin into wind while some way off the South American coast, reduced speed, and sat there for a couple of days until the commotion was over.
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My last trip DXB to JFK 15h 15 min. A345. About 6.30h in the bunk, movie and some rest then back in the seat for an approach to 31R on a clear cool NY winterday . A short 11h 50 min return leg back to Du..isneyland. 2JFK's and a far eastern trip would be a decent month. I wish they didn't throw in that night Hyderabad, Cochin and SIM support to top it off
. A short 11h 50 min return leg back to Du..isneyland. 2JFK's and a far eastern trip would be a decent month. I wish they didn't throw in that night Hyderabad, Cochin and SIM support to top it off
Talking of long endurance flights, Guinness say that the longest ever (excluding space flight) was airborne for just under 65 days, from Dec 58 until Feb 59. It was a Cessna 172 with 2 on board, with long range tanks that allowed it to fly for about 24 hours between refuelling, which was done by flying at 20 ft above a fuel tanker and picking up a hose. Only saw a brief entry about it on the internet, so I don’t know how they managed for food etc, presumably that was also picked up in flight from a chase vehicle.
Talking of long endurance flights, Guinness say that the longest ever (excluding space flight) was airborne for just under 65 days, from Dec 58 until Feb 59. It was a Cessna 172 with 2 on board, with long range tanks that allowed it to fly for about 24 hours between refuelling, which was done by flying at 20 ft above a fuel tanker and picking up a hose. Only saw a brief entry about it on the internet, so I don’t know how they managed for food etc, presumably that was also picked up in flight from a chase vehicle.
"Another exhibit hangs directly over the baggage claim area: A plane that, in 1959, was used in setting a nonstop flying record -- 64 days, 22 hours, 19 minutes, 5 seconds -- that still stands.
Refueling was done on the fly, from a fuel truck that followed the plane on the ground. The pilots lifted baskets of food into the plane by rope. And, the answer to the inevitable question -- a small portable toilet seat -- is displayed in a nearby glass case."
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1. Assuming that the C172 was travelling at 65 kts during fuel pickup, how far would it have to go at synchronised speed with the tanker to refuel ? I would expect many miles.
2. I can't quite see how a C172 with 2pob would have enough capability to lift 24 hours endurance of fuel.
3. If you were going for an endurance record you would surely go for a retractable and a constant speed prop.
4. What did they do for oil (the C172 of that vintage being a typical GA oil guzzler) ?
5. You would have to be VERY good friends with your fellow pilot ! And indeed with that tanker driver 20 feet below.
Last edited by WHBM; 16th Jan 2007 at 15:12. Reason: The oil point
