Easyjet exposed!
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Easyjet exposed!
Easyjet today 'names and shames' three major international companies today for "for not recognising low-cost airlines in their employees' travel policy."
Well Easyjet, AT LEAST one of the quoted companies is ACTUALLY a FREQUENT customer of yours!!
It would appear that you've just named and shamed your own company and indeed slandered your own customers...
Think before you jump on your high horse and start a national media campaign..huh?
Well Easyjet, AT LEAST one of the quoted companies is ACTUALLY a FREQUENT customer of yours!!
It would appear that you've just named and shamed your own company and indeed slandered your own customers...
Think before you jump on your high horse and start a national media campaign..huh?
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gofer,
no probs.. I forgot that. The info comes straight from Easy's site and it's plainly unfair because it just isn't true.
<a href="http://www.easyjet.com/en/news/20020206_01.html" target="_blank">www.easyjet.com/en/news/20020206_01.html</a>
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no probs.. I forgot that. The info comes straight from Easy's site and it's plainly unfair because it just isn't true.
<a href="http://www.easyjet.com/en/news/20020206_01.html" target="_blank">www.easyjet.com/en/news/20020206_01.html</a>
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Once again, Easy adopts the 'I'll tell your Daddy' approach to sales when they are just as guilty in their own business empire. I refer to the use of Mercedes A class cars for their rental operation when Perdua Nippas could be available for a fraction of the price.. .To tell the truth though, I would prefer the MB to the Indian, but that is a matter of choice. Just like my travel arrangements really.. .Grow up Easy, you are owed nothing by the rest of the world, whatever you may think.
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Okay Freightnight so how are those businesses going to get their staff to Nth America, Canada, Asia , Middle East , Australia, New Zealand, South America, Russia, Africa with easy. It's going to be a Bl***y long walk. It's all very well for easy to pick which targets to shoot at but maybe some of these companies have a bigger view than just Europe.
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I would have thought that most business people would prefer to pay a little extra so that they could avoid the bucket and spade brigade and are likely to arrive at their destination on the correct day within 50 miles of it! If the ITV fly on the wall Airline programme is to be believed then ' you pays your money, you takes your chance' - a bit like Ryanair really.
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I think you are missing the point last week we needed to get to BCN so we called our company travel agent who charges commission on every booking LON-BCN £215.00 per person. On quick look on the net …Easyjet £75.00, Go £78.00. If your employees need to go long haul then shop around.. .I just recon if a British company wants to make a lot of money and employ loads of workers then give them our support instead of following the good old tradition of “slating everything British”
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so perhaps the companies should employ someone to shop around ...just so stelios can get the business........ not. .if i were a large company i wouldnt want to risk not making appointments that are potentially worth millions in contracts etc just to save a few quid........as said b4 grow up stelios its a free market and they can travel with who they choose
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easyJet have a market segment to cater for as do BA and the other traditional airlines. I have no problems using (and have done so many times) EZY for domestic flights. However, when it comes to European destinations I always choose traditional airlines. Why? Seat allocation and through check-in/transfer. I do not want to arrrive at EDI. Queue to checkin. Scramble for a seat. Fly to LTN. Wait for bags. Queue to check-in. Scramble for a seat. Fly to .....
I fly a huge amount on business. I am doing it because it is necessary. I don't particularly like getting up at 4:30, driving to the Airport, waiting in a crowded lounge, scrambling onto a plane hoping to avoid the middle seat, arriving at an airport no where near where I want to be, getting to where I need to be, doing my days work, heading back to an remote airport, sitting in a crowded departure lounge, scrambling....and finally getting home 15 hours after I left!
I much prefer using an airline that gives me on-line or telephone check-in, allocated seat, a nice business lounge away from the bucket and spaders, comfortable seating that means my knees are not under my chin.
Stellios has a great business and meets the needs of a particular market. At times I wish he would shut-up and thankful for what he's got. This typed of whining is very off-putting.
I fly a huge amount on business. I am doing it because it is necessary. I don't particularly like getting up at 4:30, driving to the Airport, waiting in a crowded lounge, scrambling onto a plane hoping to avoid the middle seat, arriving at an airport no where near where I want to be, getting to where I need to be, doing my days work, heading back to an remote airport, sitting in a crowded departure lounge, scrambling....and finally getting home 15 hours after I left!
I much prefer using an airline that gives me on-line or telephone check-in, allocated seat, a nice business lounge away from the bucket and spaders, comfortable seating that means my knees are not under my chin.
Stellios has a great business and meets the needs of a particular market. At times I wish he would shut-up and thankful for what he's got. This typed of whining is very off-putting.
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Ray Webster says, 'Shareholders have the right to know how much company revenue is being wasted on...'
I'll bet he would take a different view if the shareholders of his company starting poking round in his own back yard!
He may live to regret that statement.
I'll bet he would take a different view if the shareholders of his company starting poking round in his own back yard!
He may live to regret that statement.
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Well I have just booked easyJet AMS-LPL-AMS for Feb 19 to Mar 6, 2002 and guess what? It is cheaper than my "Z" fare on BD or BA between Heathrow and Manchester. Go for it easyJet. Boy I wish C3K was still flying.
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Stoopid,
Some valid points have been made in this thread, both for and against the low-cost brigade. However:
1. easyJet's punctuality generally pretty good....even publish it on the website, whether it has been good or bad, and it regularly beats the 'mainline' operations.
2. This thread is about easyJet, and you make comments about remote airports 50 miles away. Sorry, but that's Ryanair......EZ fly to Glasgow, not Glasgow (Prestwick), and to other mainline airports such as Nice, Amsterdam, Madrid, etc. Do not confuse easyJet and Ryanair as they are very different.
Some valid points have been made in this thread, both for and against the low-cost brigade. However:
1. easyJet's punctuality generally pretty good....even publish it on the website, whether it has been good or bad, and it regularly beats the 'mainline' operations.
2. This thread is about easyJet, and you make comments about remote airports 50 miles away. Sorry, but that's Ryanair......EZ fly to Glasgow, not Glasgow (Prestwick), and to other mainline airports such as Nice, Amsterdam, Madrid, etc. Do not confuse easyJet and Ryanair as they are very different.
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So busy executives who read this site - tell me how often you can book your trip to Amsterdam weeks in advance and be confident that your schedule will not change at all, because for all those occasions you could be saving £40 pounds flying with Easyjet! Now would anyone like do to the maths on buying a flexible economy ticket to AMS with a full fare airline at two days notice, then compare it to the same on Easyjet, factoring in rebooking twice for a later flight home at two hours notice. Methinks the comparison maybe somewhat less favourable for Easyjet when they use a realistic busines travel profile. I think BA and BMI should launch a 'name and shame' campaign against low cost airline passengers who ring up for a £9.99 fare thats sold out and end up paying £80 when they could have flown with full service for less. The public have a right to know just how much money is being wasted on over priced no-frills air travel!
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I used to work for a reasonably large company (one of the FTSE-100 constituents). We were all once sent an e-mail telling us not to bother to shop around because although the ticket price appeared to be cheaper with some airlines, as we did so much business with BA they gave a whopping annual rebate.
I'm sure they're not alone. Most big companies have a pretty savvy travel department.
I'm sure they're not alone. Most big companies have a pretty savvy travel department.
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So, I had a meeting (Voluntary, air sport related - talking about planning and noise problems for aviation, in fact) in Lausanne on Friday /Saturday 10-2 Feb. I went Easyjet, Luton-Geneva. What are these high cost or other options that would have cost more that £143 but got me from Haverhill, Suffolk, to Lausanne quicker, more reliably, better for dpearture/arrival airportts etc.? Tell me again, who flies Haverhill-Lausanne, and at what price?
Gaza are you there? Anyone else?
By the way I missed my booked flight at 0630 - traffic problem - and was rebooked at no extra cost on the 11.00. What are these better options again, and how do they charge if you miss you intended flight for whatever reason?
Do the full price people ever overbook, or is that a myth?
[Running for cover - but I think the Royal Aero Club, who pay my expenses, won't be too sad at paying out for an Easyjet flight . . . ]
Gaza are you there? Anyone else?
By the way I missed my booked flight at 0630 - traffic problem - and was rebooked at no extra cost on the 11.00. What are these better options again, and how do they charge if you miss you intended flight for whatever reason?
Do the full price people ever overbook, or is that a myth?
[Running for cover - but I think the Royal Aero Club, who pay my expenses, won't be too sad at paying out for an Easyjet flight . . . ]
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my company has a simalr deal with VS for longhaul, BD/*A for shorthaul and BA for the gaps. Yep, we pay a bit more for the tickets, but if we hit targets we get a load back. The amex girls are pretty as well.
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I guess the company cars should be changed to mopeds, that way we could save a bundle. Lets not travel at all, make a phonecall instead or meet via the internet, its lot cheaper!!!!
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Working for a 100,000+ employee company, it is a bit more subtle. AMEX handles all travel and credit card stuff for us, and gives a rebate for everything spent. They can't/won't book Easyjet, and individual employees can't work around this, unless they pay for the fares themselves. (Something I have done in the past.)
In addition, employees who travel a lot LOVE to be able to fly with their familes extensively for free, based on FF miles. This takes pressure out of the system. BTW, at the moment, it is cheaper for me to fly Geneva-Dublin with Crossair than with the Easy/Ryan combo, provided I stay 3 nights. Fares go up tomorrow.
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In addition, employees who travel a lot LOVE to be able to fly with their familes extensively for free, based on FF miles. This takes pressure out of the system. BTW, at the moment, it is cheaper for me to fly Geneva-Dublin with Crossair than with the Easy/Ryan combo, provided I stay 3 nights. Fares go up tomorrow.
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And from today's Telegraph:
"EASYJET, the budget airline, lost a public spat with Marconi yesterday after agreeing to remove the embattled telecoms equipment maker from the "Hall of Shame" in its latest advertising campaign.
Marconi is named with Cadbury Schweppes and Total Fina Elf in the advertisements under the banner, "Is your company wasting money?".
Easyjet goes on to accuse them of caring "less about returning shareholder value, and more about massaging their own egos" for not using low-cost carriers.
But Marconi yesterday denied the claims, saying it had booked more than 50 flights on budget airlines over the last three months - 18 of which were with Easyjet.
David Beck, director of communications, added: "I am surprised Easyjet thinks that this is the way to treat its customers. They should check the facts before running advertisements that are wrong."
The issue is particularly sensitive for Marconi after the embarrassing revelations last August that executives were using company jets just weeks after announcing 4,000 redundancies.
The debt-laden group claimed it made economic sense to use the jets, which ferry staff between London, Genoa and Pittsburgh, and that no budget carriers operate on those routes.
Marconi said it would continue to use Easyjet despite the adverts. Mr Beck said: "Our travel policy is to fly people, where it's critical to the business, at the lowest cost possible and if that's Easyjet, then we will continue to use them."
Easyjet yesterday said it would be removing Marconi's name from the adverts but said it had no intention of pulling the campaign.
A spokesman said: "When we contacted the travel managers, Marconi said they did not use low-cost airlines."
Last year Easyjet altered a series of posters after wrongly claiming Tony Blair was a customer."
"EASYJET, the budget airline, lost a public spat with Marconi yesterday after agreeing to remove the embattled telecoms equipment maker from the "Hall of Shame" in its latest advertising campaign.
Marconi is named with Cadbury Schweppes and Total Fina Elf in the advertisements under the banner, "Is your company wasting money?".
Easyjet goes on to accuse them of caring "less about returning shareholder value, and more about massaging their own egos" for not using low-cost carriers.
But Marconi yesterday denied the claims, saying it had booked more than 50 flights on budget airlines over the last three months - 18 of which were with Easyjet.
David Beck, director of communications, added: "I am surprised Easyjet thinks that this is the way to treat its customers. They should check the facts before running advertisements that are wrong."
The issue is particularly sensitive for Marconi after the embarrassing revelations last August that executives were using company jets just weeks after announcing 4,000 redundancies.
The debt-laden group claimed it made economic sense to use the jets, which ferry staff between London, Genoa and Pittsburgh, and that no budget carriers operate on those routes.
Marconi said it would continue to use Easyjet despite the adverts. Mr Beck said: "Our travel policy is to fly people, where it's critical to the business, at the lowest cost possible and if that's Easyjet, then we will continue to use them."
Easyjet yesterday said it would be removing Marconi's name from the adverts but said it had no intention of pulling the campaign.
A spokesman said: "When we contacted the travel managers, Marconi said they did not use low-cost airlines."
Last year Easyjet altered a series of posters after wrongly claiming Tony Blair was a customer."