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Old 14th Aug 2001, 02:55
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Clarkson is just another 'Journo' who throws up at the slightest hint of 'g' and doesn't fit into a GT40 ( cos his head is too big ).
Any body can scribe sarcasm and make it witty
- thats his thing - but being constructive takes time and thought which he seems short of. I think his 'writing' is akin to graffiti and can be likened to chewing gum for the 'bored'
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Torpedoe, I'm not sure you contributed anything of value to justify our cause...sorry, but comments like that make pilots look stupid!
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I can just see it now in the "Fat Family in Sports Gear eating Chips" Forum...I bet they are up in arms.I think his article was a little light hearted poke at sitting in the airport in the middle of the night.....ease up chaps.
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He didn't seem to complain too much when he was a regular passenger on the same aircraft when it was VIP service with complimentary bar!
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Sheer entertainment.
Can't take too seriously anyone who can leave his breakfast scattered all over the rear cockpit of a F-15.
 
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Well, personally I think that JC's prose is fine. It pokes fun at times and much of it shouldn't be taken seriously, but on the whole it lightens up a drab world - as did his TV programme. Remember the hair spray food cannon? BBC-TV's Top Gear is very dull now; someone who looks like the Ginger whinger's little brother squeaks away in an almost indecipherable accent, Vicki BH is all blokey and then there's that bloke from somewhere oop Nawth who goes on about 'Dew-katties' and other 'moaterrr-bikes'! Bring back the old team of JC, QW and TN!!

JC was also spot-on describing the chaos which would hit the M25/M11 due to roadworks this year - particularly at the Stansted exit during the peak holiday season! It's not surprising that the captain of his flight was stuck in traffic - I was the other week (but was early for the flight because, as a passenger, I didn't have crew duty time to worry about!). Next time it'll be Aylesbury, Watford, St Albans, Hertford and avoid all motorways.
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I thought it was great. Good grief, there are some sanctimonious, boring old farts here, aren't there!!?
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Old 14th Aug 2001, 11:38
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What is this "My Country (industry) Right or Wrong" attitude?

Aviation has some serious problems in its ability to deliver an acceptable level of service, as many of us in the industry surely acknowledge. Why all the slanging off when someone dares to criticise.

Lets face it. 25 years ago it might still have been a miracle to be able to fly to far flung places in a few hours. Now it is mostly a pretty miserable experience. I am sure I am not alone in saying that I find most of my positioning flights to be a pretty poor experience, when I am sitting back in cattle class. In contrast to when I am at work, sitting up the front of my aging freighter, which even after many years in the business, I still enjoy.

Surely the correct response is to acknowledge this, and start to fix it.

Not to shoot the messanger.
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Rather funnier than usual Mr Clarkson.
Nicely observed and wittily written although the Game Boy is slightly worrying.
On the subject of Top Gear, I agree that a return to its roots would be terrific as proposed by BEagle but not forgetting Tony Mason.
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Very much agree with sentiments of Lord Lucan.

Any critic of air industry is effectively sneered at and a mockery is made out of any legitimate complaints. As a SERVICE industry, some airlines have an odd attitude.

If it is not possible to offer a decent flight service at low ticket prices, it is up to the industry to address this.

Mr Adidas and his shell-suit family are not told when booking their cheap flight/holiday that as it is cheap the flight will be truly awful, and you will be expected to grin and bear it.

Something I have always believed is that travel agencies have a part to play in this. If when booking, you travel agent tells you you can expect cr@p service unless you pay a bit more, most people would pay more. The general public are generally kept in the dark about these matters when booking, so airline staff should not be so 'put out' when passengers complain - no matter how cheap the ticket.

Jeremy clarkson is extremely witty - not to be taken too seriously.
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Old 14th Aug 2001, 18:04
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JC is actually the only thing worth reading in The Sunday Times these days. My sympathies lie with the poor Capt.- even leaving an extra hour for the bloody M11 roadworks is sometimes not enough, and as for finding a parking spot anywhere near Enterprise House,forget it! And for another 16 months!
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Old 14th Aug 2001, 20:22
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Thanks for the support flypastpastfast

My point was not just that the low cost airlines are a pretty poor way to fly, more that there is not really that much difference. At least on short haul.

Most of my positioning I do on the full fare airlines, mostly with national carriers, and quite honestly is is a pretty poor experience. Especially the time wasted in airports, which is usually considerably more than the flight time.

And then there is the seating on board.....
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Old 14th Aug 2001, 21:50
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LordLucan - not all the low-costs are a poor way to fly! I far, far prefer the quality of service I get on buzz flights from STN-FRA and back than I used to get on far more expensive flights on LH from LHR-FRA! The buzz team are friendlier, the coffee comes in a cafetiere (even if you do pay for it - and why shouldn't you?), parking at STN is so much cheaper, the seats are vastly more comfortable on both 146 and 737 than on any LH airbus, you don't feel a second class citizen to some fat businessman in 'someone else paid for my ticket class', etc etc......

Low cost short-haul, if clean and comfortable, is much more appealing than full-cost free G&T travel in the cattle-class seats of multi-class carriers! Especially when it means that I can visit Ladylove more often than I used to be able to!
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Anyone who has constructive criticism of make of aviation is welcome to put pen to paper, but you have to differentiate between that and taking the piss, especially when it's done because, like a small boy trying to write a thank-you letter to his aunt, you can't think of anything to put.
Jeremy Clarkson is a one-speed operator who's stuck in a bygone era and who doesn't yet realise that his joke's gone flat. In case you missed it, Top Gear is being pulled from the TV schedules. Why? Because its day is long gone. Most motorists now genuinely want to know how much damage their cars do, how to minimise that damage, how to be as environmentally friendly as they can possibly be. There's more to motoring than phewhatascorcherbabemagnet boy racing.
Clarkson? I remember him. Used to write/talk about cars. Tried to branch out, failed. Wonder whatever happened to him.
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Old 15th Aug 2001, 01:26
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BO££OCKS!! 4-star unleaded is the smell of freedom. To hell with tree-huggers in their boring little econoboxes, I say!

If TG really is being pulled, then it's only because the idiots at the BBC made a complete ar$e of themselves by selecting presenters for the programme who, in the main, nobody could understand, nobody could name and who lacked any real personality. Except, of course, for the occasional appearance of Tiff N - and the wicked V B-H.....

Poop Poop!!

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Old 15th Aug 2001, 02:06
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The best thing about Top Gear was the "Top Gear Live" at the yearly motorshows. QW would usually compare, most of the time taking the pi$$ out of the others choice of wardrobe, TN would do his usual "I was a racing driver", and JC would end up offending the Koreans by saying that "Hyundai designers were too busy eating small dogs to design a decent car" and get banned from speaking all week.
It was always good to see replays of them all destroying one-off supercars.

And man did they drink!!!
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Old 15th Aug 2001, 02:11
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The price of your ticket does not necessarily
guarantee an on time departure,If you spend an xtra £100 on a ticket will you get a preferential atc slot? Is the aircraft then
immune from all technical problems?Will your fellow passenger get to the gate on time,blah,blah,blah.No matter which airline you fly you are still subject to the same problems and delays.
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Old 15th Aug 2001, 04:13
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well said Beagle, absolutely spot-on (from one petrolhead to another)
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