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according to ICAO /JAA the 23 november 2006 rule implementation you could fly as commander till age 65?france seems to be ok now if you are a foreign operator while italy forbids his airsapace if you are over 60?? that would simply mean nothing has been solved for those concerned more italian pilots over 60 could fly anywhere else without restrictions comment
Italy cannot enforce a law to ban other states aircraft from its airspace, landing or overflight, with pilots meeting the ICAO age standard.
It is contrary to their ICAO treaty obligations , if they persist they would be thrown out of ICAO ,they can only file a difference for "I " registered aircraft. They need to get their laws aligned with their treaty obligations, pronto.
It is contrary to their ICAO treaty obligations , if they persist they would be thrown out of ICAO ,they can only file a difference for "I " registered aircraft. They need to get their laws aligned with their treaty obligations, pronto.
What it cannot do is exclude ICAO legal pilots and aircraft without filing an exception.
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Ladies & Gentlemen,
Can we please get some hard facts about what is going on. I & Mike Jeveny have raised the point, but to no avail. Simple question:
Is there anyone working for an airline, or who knows of an airline, that has offered new contracts of employment, or extended contracts of employment, to allow those over 60 or approaching 60 to continue to fly? If so, in what rank?
It has been legal to fly +60 in most EU states for the past few years, but because of rostering and the difficulties raised by some states, most airlines have declined to employ +60's. This and various pension rules. Thus employment contracts terminated at 60. This change in EU conditons has not come as a surprise; it was on the horizon for months and a transition date had been announced. Why then does it seem such a big surprise to the airlines? So, has any airline taken advantage of this change? Has anyone who reached 60 after November 23 been forced to retire, and has anyone tried to reverse that? If so, with what effect?
Equally what have the various unions been doing about it on behalf of their members? Why has it been so quiet over such a major employemnt issue?
Can we please get some hard facts about what is going on. I & Mike Jeveny have raised the point, but to no avail. Simple question:
Is there anyone working for an airline, or who knows of an airline, that has offered new contracts of employment, or extended contracts of employment, to allow those over 60 or approaching 60 to continue to fly? If so, in what rank?
It has been legal to fly +60 in most EU states for the past few years, but because of rostering and the difficulties raised by some states, most airlines have declined to employ +60's. This and various pension rules. Thus employment contracts terminated at 60. This change in EU conditons has not come as a surprise; it was on the horizon for months and a transition date had been announced. Why then does it seem such a big surprise to the airlines? So, has any airline taken advantage of this change? Has anyone who reached 60 after November 23 been forced to retire, and has anyone tried to reverse that? If so, with what effect?
Equally what have the various unions been doing about it on behalf of their members? Why has it been so quiet over such a major employemnt issue?
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Genghis, that doesn't appear to be what ICAO thinks; this from their website,
ICAO, Air Navigation Bureau (ANB), Personnel Licensing, FAQs
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A State may wish to impose a lower maximum age limit than that specified by ICAO in 2.1.10.1. It may do this for the licenses it issues, but, as stated above, it cannot prevent an aircraft operated by a PIC holding a licence from another State, who is below the ICAO upper limit, from operating in its airspace.
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ICAO, Air Navigation Bureau (ANB), Personnel Licensing, FAQs
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A State may wish to impose a lower maximum age limit than that specified by ICAO in 2.1.10.1. It may do this for the licenses it issues, but, as stated above, it cannot prevent an aircraft operated by a PIC holding a licence from another State, who is below the ICAO upper limit, from operating in its airspace.
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