FUTURA tailstrike at LBA
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FUTURA tailstrike at LBA
Yesterday afternoon's Futura flight from LBA to Fuerteventura had to make an emergency landing back at LBA around 15:00, due to the a/c having a tailstrike on take off. It is thought the pilot failed to adjust his trim correctly and over rotated. This is the second time in a week that the airline has had to make an emergency landing at LBA.
After inspection by mechanics, the aircraft departed with passengers at around 18:00.
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After inspection by mechanics, the aircraft departed with passengers at around 18:00.
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At least they did a bit better than the one I saw in SNN a few years ago.We told the tower that from our vantage point at the holding point we thought he had made a tailstrike, they told him, he acknowledged, and then continued on his happy way to Tenerife or wherever,leaving us shaking our heads in disbelief and re-reading our own QRH to see if we were missing something obvious. . .we weren't.
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Seem they have quite a history of something like that. Last year they had a tailstrike at setting take off power in STR, the plane just sat down on its tail. The crew was warned of an out of trim situation during the turnaround by the rampagent and neglected that warning. The plane had to remain in STR for more than a month until it was repaired.
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Hetfield: it was definitely a full declared emergency. 20 or more West Yorkshire fire engines were on the scene within minutes of the emergency being declared, every aircraft in the vicinity was forced to hold. A Jet2 737 from CDG almost had to divert to MAN as he only had 5 mins of holding time left.
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Tailstrike factors
Rego?
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733, 734, 738??
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At lower speeds does the trim have that much effect (on the attitude selected)? Wouldn't it be more correct to say that he just input too much backstick too quickly (or too early) and overshot his target pitch attitude?
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Airplanes I've flown are more easily tailstruck by those attempting to rotate and unstick in one fell swoop - rather than select an attitude and wait for the airspeed increase to get you airborne...... with little further back-pressure being required. Maybe it's just horses for courses.
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733, 734, 738??
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It is thought the pilot failed to adjust his trim correctly and over rotated
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Airplanes I've flown are more easily tailstruck by those attempting to rotate and unstick in one fell swoop - rather than select an attitude and wait for the airspeed increase to get you airborne...... with little further back-pressure being required. Maybe it's just horses for courses.
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737-800 that is exactly what I do, assume 8/10 degrees or so pitch. wait till the gear hit bottom and smoothly rotate to 12/15 into the flight director, for the climb out. Believe it or not you have less clearance landing (with the struts compressing) than taking off.
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Hetfield: it was definitely a full declared emergency. 20 or more West Yorkshire fire engines were on the scene within minutes of the emergency being declared, every aircraft in the vicinity was forced to hold. A Jet2 737 from CDG almost had to divert to MAN as he only had 5 mins of holding time left.
"DECLEARE EMERGENCY" for a tail-strike?
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Totally agree Rainboe,
why not declare an emergency? Would the "perfect pilots" here who criticise these decisions from the comfort of their living rooms be happy assessing post strike damage from within the flightdeck whilst in flight?
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why not declare an emergency? Would the "perfect pilots" here who criticise these decisions from the comfort of their living rooms be happy assessing post strike damage from within the flightdeck whilst in flight?
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ClintonBaptiste, when you say declared an emergency, are you saying he declared a May Day or Pan Pan, because an emergency as you are describing is a May Day, and I really dont think it was that serious. Declaring a Pan Pan, yes, because he would want priority (urgency).
Just wanna check which it is.
Just wanna check which it is.
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irrespective of what the crew may or may not have told ATC, the tower controller will have decided on the level of call out they require, probably a full emergency in this case, based on their 'take' on the incident-and they will always go for a higher category rather than lower, just in case!
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Wonder if it's the same captain that decided last week to not bother holding on the taxiway in BRS for a marshaller and to self moneuvre on to stand 4 
only problem was he came on at completely the wrong angle and ended up with his tail hanging over the ramp road, also managed to s**t up the SRT engineers who were on stand 5, i believe that BRS ASU were not impressed 
only problem was he came on at completely the wrong angle and ended up with his tail hanging over the ramp road, also managed to s**t up the SRT engineers who were on stand 5, i believe that BRS ASU were not impressed
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Just to get a few things clear.
It was a 737-700, the pilot did fail to correctly adjust his trim setting. The load controller and dispatcher both made him aware of the need to change it, but he chose not to
The captain reported hearing a loud bang on rotation, it could have been anything really. Just last week a klm f70 aborted take off due to a birdstrike 2 ft from the fo's window.
flyingbug- What on earth are you on about? I was only touting myself to an airline! I would in no way want anyone to lose their job over something like this. There is not a single pilot out there who can say they have never made an error in their flying career.
I've had my f/atpl for 6months, speak 4 languages and like many others have not been fortunate enough to get a job yet.
It was a 737-700, the pilot did fail to correctly adjust his trim setting. The load controller and dispatcher both made him aware of the need to change it, but he chose not to
The captain reported hearing a loud bang on rotation, it could have been anything really. Just last week a klm f70 aborted take off due to a birdstrike 2 ft from the fo's window.
flyingbug- What on earth are you on about? I was only touting myself to an airline! I would in no way want anyone to lose their job over something like this. There is not a single pilot out there who can say they have never made an error in their flying career.
I've had my f/atpl for 6months, speak 4 languages and like many others have not been fortunate enough to get a job yet.
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when we pulled up alongside on stand looked very much like a 737-800 as ive not seen a b737-700 with double overwing exits
here you go .....
http://myaviation.net/?pid=00860117
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I work at the airport aswell as train for my pilots licence. I wasn't on shift that particular day, but one of my colleagues said that when it arrived back on stand, there was no evidence of a tail strike, but something else that caused sparks from the tail witnessed by the ATC controller.
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This mob is only a matter of time type of operation.
Lets no mention about the approach into BFS ALD approx 3 weeks ago, instead they lined up for an arrival to a small aerodrome which is located to the west of BFS.The tower instructed the aircraft to go around,and to a total disbelief they attempted from the goaround to land, which they did, some halfway down the easterly runway at BFS,all this after some very skillfull manoeuvering and crew coordination at low level.
Talk about an error chain!
It's sad to know that fortunately with the reliability of todays machines which are crewed by unadequatelly trained crews,that had we operated the stuff from the 60's, 70's or even the 80's, which were opearted by highly experienced crews, with cowboys like these, todays hull losses would have surpassed those from the same era by an extereme margin.
Lets no mention about the approach into BFS ALD approx 3 weeks ago, instead they lined up for an arrival to a small aerodrome which is located to the west of BFS.The tower instructed the aircraft to go around,and to a total disbelief they attempted from the goaround to land, which they did, some halfway down the easterly runway at BFS,all this after some very skillfull manoeuvering and crew coordination at low level.
Talk about an error chain!
It's sad to know that fortunately with the reliability of todays machines which are crewed by unadequatelly trained crews,that had we operated the stuff from the 60's, 70's or even the 80's, which were opearted by highly experienced crews, with cowboys like these, todays hull losses would have surpassed those from the same era by an extereme margin.