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Old 18th Aug 2006, 21:01
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It would be impossible to trace and more importantly prove who put a note in a seat pocket. Passengers move to different seats, or it would be trivial to slip it into another seat while exiting, or it might not be a passenger at all.

They really need to improve the plane cleaning/checking between flights, or get rid of the seat pockets and the stupid "shopping in the skies" mags.
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Old 18th Aug 2006, 21:12
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What is the problem telling the people the truth, rather than trying to make something up, or only say something vague?

People are not stupid and will smell a rat very quickly.
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Old 18th Aug 2006, 22:29
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Whether or not to tell the passengers surely depends on the context and the likely threat. (No criticism intended of the crew in this case).

If you are in a situation where you REALLY think there is only a 50/50 chance of making it out alive, is there much mileage in telling the passengers accordingly?

As an afterthought, the UK legislation says that a/c can only fly in formation if the commanders of the a/c have agreed to do so. Nothwithstanding the terrorist threat I hope that a/c commanders are being informed that they are being formated on prior to the event!
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Old 18th Aug 2006, 22:32
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Originally Posted by omnidirectional737
What is the problem telling the people the truth, rather than trying to make something up, or only say something vague?

People are not stupid and will smell a rat very quickly.

The problem with the truth it causes panic you mention there is a bomb on board we are diverting causes no end of panic.
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Old 18th Aug 2006, 23:08
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Yep, I think we should ban pens, paper, sick-bags, indeed anything in the seat-pockets at all. Ban seat-pockets. Anyone in possession of said items will be rugby-tackled, cuffed and offloaded at nearest suitable airport after aircraft is diverted. That'll make everything much safer and people can then relax.....?
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Old 19th Aug 2006, 00:34
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I assume the aircraft continued to HRG? Has it arrived back in LGW (can't find anything on their site)?
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Old 19th Aug 2006, 15:37
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Saying there is a bomb on board would not have been telling the truth anyway as there was not. But saying they have received a note of a bomb threat and are diverting as a precaution is something else. I am sure people can understand this with out pannicking, as this happens, or used to frequently especially in London when the IRA were around.
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Old 19th Aug 2006, 16:44
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Originally Posted by omnidirectional737
What is the problem telling the people the truth, rather than trying to make something up, or only say something vague?
People are not stupid and will smell a rat very quickly.
As I have stated previously (ad nauseam) - if there is a note then there is no bomb.
I'll pass on the 'stupid' judgement, but I'm sure the one who found said note would quickly and eagerly pass on the news of his discovery to the rest of the punters. So yes, got to tell them and dive for the nearest runway l'm afraid.
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Old 19th Aug 2006, 16:57
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This sort of thing has to be stamped out and anyone making these threats has to be detained in prison for a long time. I hope that they catch the daft sod and make him realise what his actions have done. If we startstop pax taking pens aboard what will they use for immigration forms and the like?
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Old 19th Aug 2006, 18:08
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Originally Posted by fireflybob
Whether or not to tell the passengers surely depends on the context and the likely threat. (No criticism intended of the crew in this case).

As an afterthought, the UK legislation says that a/c can only fly in formation if the commanders of the a/c have agreed to do so. Nothwithstanding the terrorist threat I hope that a/c commanders are being informed that they are being formated on prior to the event!
Thats why they call it being intercepted...you don't have a choice about flying in formation when you get intercepted. That rule only applies when you have 2 or more civil airfcraft who plan to fly in formation for kicks.
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Old 19th Aug 2006, 23:45
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So are you saying the Excel jet was intercepted and FORCED to land at Brindisi?
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Old 20th Aug 2006, 07:01
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Perhaps escorted to Brindisi better describes it.
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